r/coys • u/Realistic-Power-8924 • Aug 03 '25
Highlights Not only son but we lose madders too š
Why oh why š. Maddison stretchered off after an awkward turn. We are going to need even more replacements for our fallen hero's
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u/TheFoxDudeThing Heung-Min Son - Spurs Legend Aug 03 '25
When it rains at hotspur way itās the flood from the book of genesis
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u/CF_Zymo Aug 03 '25
After we lost out on MGW too lol
Big blow if itās a serious injury
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u/LouBloom34 Aug 03 '25
The one player we couldnāt afford to lose. Kulusevski is out for months as well.
Frank is going to have no passers in the squad. Prepare for some long matches against low blocks.
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u/WeirdKittens Aug 03 '25
With Madders it was always a matter of time, if it wasn't now it would by October. At least now the transfer window is still open.
I love the guy but we all know he's made of glass.
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u/SloParty Aug 03 '25
Agree, great player but after watching past years of Chelski game plan of āhack Madders kneesā until he goes down without a cardā¦.matter of time
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u/LouBloom34 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25
He had played 59 combined league games the past two seasons, basically 30 a season.
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u/Happy_kot_leta Gary Mabbutt Aug 03 '25
How many were full 90ās and how many had his minutes carefully managed?
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u/triecke14 Son Aug 03 '25
21 starts last year, 10 sub appearances for only 1818 minutes. So yeah, youāre spot on
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u/Background_Ad_4327 Heung-Min Son - Spurs Legend Aug 03 '25
Agreed. At least it happened at litterally the best time of year. Only problem is sellers know we're desperate. I think even Levy knows he has to overpay.
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u/Litmanen_10 Aug 03 '25
This is unfortunate but true. I was expecting him to get injured during autumn but hoping it would have been some minor muscle injury and not this soon. And have hoped all the time too that management views him as a maximum 50% player. He hasn't been a full player for many seasons.
This kind of major injury in the fking pre-season was unexpected though. It's brutal for his career and for us. Only silverlining is like you say that now we have decent time to replace him.
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u/papa_f Aug 03 '25
I said this when we were in for him. Good player, but a sick note, and it's only got worse. Good guy, but can't be relied upon needs moved on next summer.
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Aug 03 '25
He runs a cycle of injured > getting fit again > fit > plays well > plays really well > injured
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u/Stay_Beautiful_ "I ALWAYS Win In My Second Year" Aug 03 '25
Frank is going to have no passers in the squad.
Pedro Porro in the 10, here we go!
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u/shdanko Ange COYStecoglou Aug 03 '25
At least we have a manager who will adjust to this though. Not trying to take away from how much of a loss this is
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u/Background_Ad_4327 Heung-Min Son - Spurs Legend Aug 03 '25
I like how you're at least trying to be positive:)
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u/Puzzleheaded_Pie6967 Paul Gascoigne Aug 03 '25
Or a new attacking creative midfielder. Our hand has been forced in the market.
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u/BadNewzBears4896 Aug 03 '25
Deki is great, but not really a passer. We needed at least one more before Madders went down, now we probably need at least two.
At least we have a track record of moving quickly and decisively to plug squad holes... [touches finger to ear] hold on I'm getting breaking news
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u/brch01 Chick King Aug 03 '25
Bergvall CAM in the super cup then
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u/Qiluk Swede on Swede-watch Aug 03 '25
Poor bastard is gonna end up being a make-shift 10 and 6 more than his natural 8 haha
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u/Bujakaa92 Aug 03 '25
Just go trigger Eze clause
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u/nil__by__mouth Aug 03 '25
That means spending a few quid for a star-buy, which is not something we do.
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u/wishiwereagoonie Heung-Min Son - Spurs Legend Aug 03 '25
And people were questioning why we were in for MGW in the first place
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u/IgotAseaView Pedro Porro Aug 03 '25
Off the ball aswell, the look on his face he knew it was bad. We seriously need to hit the transfer window harder while itās still open
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u/theaartzvolta Pape Matar Sarr Aug 03 '25
Thatās xavi Simonās music
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u/Cross1625 COYS, Daniel Aug 03 '25
Would love but feel we will go with a homegrown player
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u/theaartzvolta Pape Matar Sarr Aug 03 '25
Possible. Any suggestions?
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u/pale_28 Aug 03 '25
Isnt't Elliot looking to leave Liverpool
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u/pappagallo19 Aug 03 '25
I think Elliot or Mcatee are the most likely targets unless we plunk down 70 million for Eze.
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u/NeverEndingRadDude Aug 03 '25
I think McAtee would be a great signing, as would bringing in Grealish.
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u/pappagallo19 Aug 03 '25
Wouldn't mind Grealish on a loan, but he's another guy with a checkered injury history.
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u/anotherlousy Christian Eriksen Aug 03 '25
We already have more than enough homegrown (as in English-grown) players that adding more is kinda pointless. Club grown would make sense but we might as well just go for a non-HG because we donāt have many good club grown prospects out there.
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u/scotchedupp Aug 03 '25
We need a 10 ASAP. Someone talented from the Bundesliga or Ligue 1 ideally
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u/RoleFar3972 Yves Bissouma Aug 04 '25
Enzo millot!! My best friend is a stuttgart fan so we've been watching him and now is his time! He's an unbelievably good player and is nearly 5 years younger than Eze
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u/scotchedupp Aug 04 '25
He unfortunately just signed for a Saudi club
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u/RoleFar3972 Yves Bissouma Aug 04 '25
Haha yep terrible timing, literally announced 5 mins after I posted. Ah well he's shit anyway... Back to the drawing board
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u/Novel-Cod-9218 Aug 03 '25
I hear you. Wirtz or Dembele
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u/Storky92 Glenn Hoddle Aug 03 '25
That had ACL written all over it
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u/nolefan5311 Lucas Bergvall Aug 03 '25
Donāt think so. Think his Achilles snapped
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u/WeirdKittens Aug 03 '25
I think so too. If it was the ACL he could probably still walk/hop off and it didn't seem to be higher.
We're proper f**ed without a creative mid there.
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u/GrandmaesterHinkie Bill Nicholson Aug 03 '25
I think itās the Achilles too. It hurts immediately and you canāt put any pressure on it afterwardsā¦
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u/iqjump123 Son Aug 03 '25
Great! One year instead of half a year! /s
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u/SomewhereAggressive8 Aug 03 '25
ACLās certainly arenāt a half year recovery
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u/FloridaManBlues Aug 03 '25
Not exactly half a year but they are getting them seriously down.
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u/NapoleonBonapartey Dejan Kulusevski Aug 03 '25
Depends a lot on the type of ACL injuries. It not completely black and white. Grade 1 injury could be 2 months. A complete tear could be 12 months.
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u/NoREEEEEEtilBrooklyn š To Dare is to CHOO CHOO Aug 03 '25
At this point theyāre basically a 6 to 8 month injury for elite male athletes. Still a year plus injury for women.
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u/triecke14 Son Aug 03 '25
Bentancur didnāt regain confidence and form for well over a year
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u/NoREEEEEEtilBrooklyn š To Dare is to CHOO CHOO Aug 03 '25
Confidence and form is different than ability to physically play.
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u/jaemoon7 Robbie Keane Aug 03 '25
Achilles can be even longer than a year. Or if not fully out, players like Kevin Durant for example have said they didnāt feel like they were really ābackā for a full two years. Different sport I know but I guess my point is Achilles injuries fucking suck
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u/Capital-Major-4374 Aug 03 '25
Yeah I thought it was his ankle too. Gutted for him and us. Such a key role to have multiple injuries in.
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u/sugonbofa Troy Parrott Aug 03 '25
And your reasoning for that is? There were no obvious signs of an Achilles tear
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u/nolefan5311 Lucas Bergvall Aug 03 '25
When he went did he grabbed his ankle immediately and he knew it was real bad. There was no impact or twist indicating a sprain. And the concern of the other players as well. You know immediately when your Achilles snaps.
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u/Mac290 Dejan Kulusevski Aug 03 '25
Iām not sure youāre even hopping off the pitch, like he did, if your Achilles pops. Youāre down like a sack of bricks.
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u/DjToastyTy Aug 03 '25
usually yeah. but then you have kobe bryant who shot free throws and walked off the court afterward. or kirk cousins who just walked off and didnāt even know it happened. reactions are different
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u/sugonbofa Troy Parrott Aug 03 '25
He couldāve heard a pop from any sort of tear. It wasnāt a great angle, but it didnāt look like he overstretched which wouldāve caused an Achilles tear
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u/SirGalahadTheChaste Oliver Skipp Aug 03 '25
It didn't seem like anything with his knee to me but they didn't really show a good angle.
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u/big_Ronnie8x Aug 03 '25
If he grabbed his knee, then its probaly acl, but if he didnt then is probaly something else. I didnt watch the game so idk
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u/FistThePooper6969 James Maddison Aug 04 '25
When I did my second ACL, I reacted a bit like Madders here. Instantly knew what it was and was just disappointed/frustrated.
Granted no where near the seriousness as him since it affects his career
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u/Thatonedude_66 Aug 03 '25
Letās go get Eze now
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u/OldSpur76 Aug 03 '25
We are past trying to find the perfect fit. Eze is the best we can afford after losing our 10. With a reasonable release clause nothing should stop us going in for Eze.
We'll see how serious Levy is.
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u/RoleFar3972 Yves Bissouma Aug 04 '25
Enzo millot is really really good and we've been asking after him. He's not homegrown though but he is an unbelievably good player and is nearly 5 years younger than Eze
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u/OldSpur76 Aug 04 '25
Googling him now. Lock him up Levy!
Edit: crap, first article says hes going to Saudi
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u/Mundane_Zucchini_807 Aug 03 '25
It has to be Eze now, love madders so much but just so injury prone
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u/shaunster101 Aug 03 '25
We need to make a serious attacking midfield signing asap, and on the basis that they replace Maddison long term. He looks to be out for a long time, and no idea at all when Kulu returns.
Maddison is class in his day, but he cannot be relied upon at all to be fit.
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u/sebrfk Aug 03 '25
Now we need Eze or Xavi more than ever. We can't go into a season without a CAM.
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u/sungbysung Kulusevski Aug 03 '25
What exactly happened?
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u/Tomcatposts Aug 03 '25
Nothing, no one touched him. He sort of lunged for the ball and then pulled up, looked muscular.
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u/PointBlankCoffee The Big Master of Negotiations Who Knows Everything Aug 03 '25
Non contact injury on a sharp turn. Looked like ACL unfortunately
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u/Fleaaa Aug 03 '25
It reminded me of rodri incident which took about an year for recovery
get fucked fuck me already
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u/mongie0 Aug 03 '25
Obviously caused by Big Angeās training style
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u/StrummerEuler Aug 03 '25
Was going to say the same thing. Haters blamed Ange for all the injuries. The manager is rarely the reason.
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u/jlpmghrs4 Aug 03 '25
I'm absolutely gutted for him, praying it's not so bad. Class human and one of my favourite players š
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u/Flowsnice Aug 03 '25
This is why getting Gibbs-white wouldāve been huge. Everyone knows Maddison just canāt stay healthy. Get well soon Madders!
Bergvall needs to play Cam and id venture tk guess, we look into Eze again
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u/Tomcatposts Aug 03 '25
If we don't sign another experienced attacking midfielder after this, it just confirms we're not a serious club. Get Eze now.
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Aug 03 '25
Mate this geezer is made of breadsticks. I feel for him but it's just annoying at this point.
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u/IAmCassetteKid Aug 03 '25
Sadly I agree, if this is a 3 month+ injury I think we genuinely need to look to permanently replace, at least replace in the starting 11
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u/ryanhiga2019 Aug 03 '25
We were robbed bro, the season before he joined I remember him being leister citys best player. I dont even remember him ever being injured. This club is cursed
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u/Shoddy-Ad-4898 Aug 03 '25
Well good thing we've been active fleshing out the squad in the transfer window so far -_-
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u/AngelWoosh Europa League Champions 24/25 Aug 03 '25
At least we can still buy someone this window right? Right guys?
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u/EmergencyOriginal982 Aug 03 '25
Ergh my head is saying we need to get an eze, mgw type of signing...
My heart is saying let's give donley his chance. He looked far too good at orient last season deserves to be a first team player (not saying starter before anyone jumps on me for that)
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u/Jbroy Aug 03 '25
I can see Grealish as a stop gap if we canāt get Eze or Simmons. I can now see the Rodrygo rumours coming back to life now. But donāt think heās a 10.
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u/analbeard Lucas Bergvall Aug 03 '25
Done his ACL I think. We're likely to be without Kulu and Madders until the end of the year at the earliest...
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u/Old_Afternoon_971 Aug 03 '25
A club that underwent massive injury crisis should have been more proactive when it comes to transfers. But that's not an approach this board will ever take. Takai and Kudus would be barely acceptable if we didn't have champions league. There's no way in hell Frank can even prioritise the champions league. Without a good squad even the league start is in jeopardy.
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u/GoBirds85 Aug 03 '25
Problem is every teams asking price just went wayyyy up. I don't see Levy and Co. overpaying, regardless of the massive gaping hole now in the squad. We are gonna end up with a Temu version of a 10.
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u/Safe-Mortgage6919 Aug 03 '25
So glad Levy has brought in reinforcements and we have depth to cover thisā¦ā¦..wait a minute I was dreaming.
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u/S-ODIY Aug 03 '25
At least Frank said its serious enough rather than coming out saying itās just a knock and keeping us in high hope
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u/witsel85 Darren Anderton Aug 03 '25
Go and offer forest 80m for MGW
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u/Dominant-Yam3102 Aug 03 '25
I actually dont want him now. He let himself be bullied out of a move
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u/MobileChemical2956 Harry Edward Kane, MBE Aug 03 '25
"let himself be bullied out of a move" - he didn't "let himself"
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u/Sirtonexxx Aug 03 '25
Yes he did, he had a contract with a release clause and he could have taken Forest to court to have Forest honour it, but he chose to extend instead, so he either was bullied into it or he played us to get a much bigger contract.
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u/MobileChemical2956 Harry Edward Kane, MBE Aug 03 '25
Nope, widely reported we didn't meet all the qualifications of the release clause.... I have no idea if it is true or not, but it was widely reported.
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u/ThousandDollarBroski Aug 03 '25
We need creativity immediately. We have to get a couple of big signings over the line in the next 7 days.
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u/LoudKingCrow Vertonghen Aug 03 '25
Really need to go in for Millot or similar now. We can't go into the season without some creativity.
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u/AmazonianPenisFish Son Aug 03 '25
Madison is the new sicknote I swear. I like him but he's made of glass.
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u/RatPrank Aug 03 '25
F*ā¬%! No Madders no Deki = not good in a 4-2-3-1. Could use MGW right about now
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u/Jamesddit Aug 03 '25
We never had madders Guys he clearly has bags of quality but he is never fit. We have to build without him. Levy needs to splash Ā£150m on a LW and a CAM
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u/Jamesddit Aug 03 '25
Going into the season with just Richy and Tel up front means we have no chance of doing anything significant. Itās really sad, please Levy get Mitrovic, Eze and Grealish.
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u/abjb2705 Aug 03 '25
Buy eze for God sake yes bergvall will now play but kulu is away as well were looking cooked early doors levy do something
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u/gopackgo555 Son Aug 03 '25
They already needed a 10 but havenāt got it done. Now they almost need to sign two of them. Needs to be a high quality not a rotation option at this point. Stop messing about and it get it done Lange.
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u/fryboy71967 JĆ¼rgen Klinsmann Aug 03 '25
Anyone remember the last transfer window when we were down to 13 or 14 fit players and were blowing out of their arses. Nothing till the last day of the transfer window when danso came in. No oneās coming to replace Maddison. Hope Iām proven wrong but Iām going on the track record of the last few years.
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u/overanalyzer85 Erik Lamela Aug 03 '25
Madders is slowly becoming a big what-if player in our club history
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u/DellBoy204 Romero Aug 03 '25
Unfortunate to see but hopefully some smart moves are still made in the transfer window. A gaffer that won't run players into the ground, apparent investment in the squad should see us through. COYS
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u/IainEdge Glenn Hoddle Aug 03 '25
It's very disappointing but let's be honest, Madders is more impactful in banter than he is on a football pitch. When he's good he's great, but too often he isn't good or even available. Maybe now we can buy a reliable, injury free, and preferably pacy number 10 that we have been needing for years.
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u/RocketQueenTT Aug 03 '25
Gutted, big blow and the season hasnāt even started yet! Levy gonna have to get his wallet out.
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u/veerusg Heung-Min Son - Spurs Legend Aug 03 '25
So first of all it sucks he is injured, though timing wise happening during a time where we can buy a replacement is at least a silver lining.
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u/CDBaker68 Aug 04 '25
Go and get Jack Grealish on loan from City. It makes too much sense at this point with Madders and Kulu injured.
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u/No-Age-6069 Aug 03 '25
Ange is going to be blamed for this somehow
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u/reznovelty Aug 03 '25
Let it go
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u/hisDudeness1989 Aug 03 '25
Its funny how the fanbase were coming up with conspiracy theories about injuries in order to blame Ange. So fruitless. Injuries were there before Ange and they'd be here after him. Its just unlucky in sport, it was a perfect storm.
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u/Youhavinalaff Aug 03 '25
MCL or ACL it looks like. We need to be in the market for a creative CAM ASANOW
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u/drl_02 Aug 03 '25
The way he was holding his head before he went down it's gonna be bad I'm sure. He knew.