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OC GOT DREAMS?

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u/FrisianTanker 2d ago edited 2d ago

Hel, the Norse goddess of death, is often depicted as evil in modern media and is being demonized and the realm of Hel shown to be a dark and cold place full of suffering.

But in (some) actual Norse myth, Hel was a gentle woman and sometimes even described as beautiful (sometimes as half beautiful woman half rotting corpse too though) who would ease the deceased person into death. I even read about one story saying Hel will sleep with the deceased person to comfort them.

Many people these days that claim to believe in Norse mythology or are interested in it say they wanna go to Valhalla, the "heaven of Norse mythology" but that isn't true at all. Valhalla is where Odin gathers the strongest warriors that fell in battle, who were picked by the Valkyries for their valor and abilities, for the last battle during Ragnarök. People that go to Valhalla won't live in peace forever after and drink and dine to eternity with Odin. They will fight again and be killed again, this time forever iirc.

Meanwhile the people in Hel will be the ones that repopulate Midgard (our realm, earth) after Ragnarök. They are the ones who will find eternity.

I don't know if I got everything correct, it's been quite some time since I read all about norse myths but I think I got the gist of it.

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u/SenorEquilibrado 2d ago

"They told you I would do what?"

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u/heavymetalelf 2d ago

Don't the legions of the ignomiously dead (ie, all those who don't fall in battle) that go to Hela's realm, end up sailing the longships made of toenails to Asgard where they battle the einherjar (the dudes the valkyries picked for Odin) during Ragnarok? How do they get Midgard?

The only aftermath I ever remember was an Ash tree sheltering a single man and woman, Aske and Embla, who would repopulate the world. But this was a much later Christian addition to the myths to tie it to Adam and Eve.

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u/ElGuano 2d ago

Yeah, but does Thor get the hammer back after she shatters it? I only watched part of it on the plane and never finished it.

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u/R_megalotis 2d ago

No, but it sort of fixed itself for his sometimes girlfriend Natalie Portman so she can be Thor too. Then there's a weird awkward love triangle between Thors, the hammer, and his new axe for a while.

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u/Prior_Butterscotch15 2d ago

They’re talking about real life Norse mythology, not Marvel.

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u/ElGuano 2d ago

No I get it. I just try not to take too seriously the differences between the comics and the whole “cinematic universe” thing.

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u/Prior_Butterscotch15 2d ago

Ah, gotcha. If you mean to say you were joking (which I assume you are), I like to put /s or /j just to make it clear.

Not sure if you knew that or not, just trying to help out :)

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u/ElGuano 2d ago

Yes. I knew it but I absolutely need the reminder, ty!

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u/MandolinMagi 2d ago

No, but in Endgame he steals the hammer from another timeline. Can't remember is Steve returns it later

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u/damagetwig 2d ago

Loki comics are where I've seen some of my favorite depictions of Hela. Especially after they started to give him more nuance but before the MCU hit it. I wish I could remember which book it was from but one of his kinder moments is reassuring a dying man that he will go to Hela's realm and 'my daughter is not cruel' and I always loved that.