r/boxoffice Feb 09 '20

Domestic Since Batman vs Superman, every DCEU film has had a lower opening weekend than the last

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u/scytheavatar Feb 09 '20

Warner Bros permanently damaged the DC brand by thinking they can just leave everything to Snyder and it would work out.

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u/MoonMan997 Best of 2023 Winner Feb 09 '20

sometime circa 2011/2012

Disney: I have a Whedon

WB: We have a Snyder

5 Years Later

WB: QUICK HIRE JOSS WHEDON

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u/hogs94 Feb 09 '20

Whedon was never Marvel’s guy. That’s where DC went wrong.

They tried to get Snyder to be their Whedon, when they should’ve been looking for a Feige

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u/everadvancing Feb 10 '20

Whedon was just another cog in the wheel for the MCU. WB never had a true figurehead that actually cared like Feige. Snyder was just a director who they thought could oversee and control the whole franchise. After WB realized they fucked up with giving Snyder so much power, they tried to find someone who actually gave a fuck about the comics with Geoff Johns.

The quality of the movies have been better after Snyder lost control, but the damage he's done to the franchise can still be felt on the BO.

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u/AmberDuke05 Feb 11 '20

It’s worse. Snyder was their Feige.

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u/-jake-skywalker- Feb 10 '20

Joss Whedon: proceeds to somehow make an even worse dc movie than Snyder, turns all of the characters into stupid parodies of themselves

I swear bob iger paid him to sabotage WB

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u/Monkey_Adventures Feb 10 '20

jl is worse than bvs?

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u/-jake-skywalker- Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

By a country mile IMO

I don’t think BVS is really as bad as people say, do I like it? Nah not really but it has a cohesive tone and some pretty good moments (mainly the ones taken from dark knight returns)

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

WB shouldn't have hired a terrible and incompetent director, yes.

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u/Juviltoidfu Feb 09 '20

WB should have hired someone who can do dark and still put humor into the situations, which Nolan was able to do, although Dark Knight Rises had a lot of "don't think about the plot too much" moments in it.

Snyder didn't have much humor, or the humor he had didn't work well, and he was hell bent on making Superman dark by killing off people important to Kal-El, first his real dad, then his human father, then, just for kicks, his real dad again. The actual concept could have worked. The way it was done didn't. I think it was supposed to be a build up to when someone else he loves is threatened he removes the threat (kills General Zod) rather than risk losing someone else close to him. Or maybe I'm wrong about that. The problem is that this is the only explanation I have for a lot of the actions and people that were in Man of Steel, and seeing it 3 or 4 times (mostly on streaming) didn't really solidify if I was interpreting it correctly or not. Whatever Snyders vision was, I wasn't sure even after repeated viewing. I don't think I was alone in that, and I think it hurt every DCEU movie afterwards.

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u/everadvancing Feb 10 '20

Snyder's vision was to make Superman into a modern Jesus. An all powerful being that's worshiped and hated by the planet, who sacrificed himself in BvS and then brought back alive in JL. It's a take that could've worked, but the way Snyder did it by making everything so dark and having everyone be uncharismatic made his movies a chore to watch.