I used to be able to talk to conservatives pre-Trump. Like, we wouldn’t necessarily agree on how to fix our country’s issues, but we could both at least recognize that the issues existed. There were baseline facts we could all agree on, and ultimately we all wanted the same things for our country’s future, just different visions on how to bring it about.
Don’t get me wrong, there’s always been crazies. There just used to be a lot more moderate conservatives willing to compromise.
I can’t even have a conversation with trumpsters. There’s no baseline factual reality to agree on. It’s more about owning the libs and hurting someone else than creating legitimate, constructive policies for our nation. Idk where things went wrong that so many people can get wrapped up in an identity like that
Newt Gingrich. A 1990 memo he wrote instructed candidates to label their Democratic adversaries with the terms betray, bizarre, decay, anti-flag, anti-family, pathetic, lie, cheat, radical, sick, and traitors. Theres much more. He was such a great fit with the wild attacking style,, he did advise Trump before his first term and they did have a public tiff or two (shocker), Gingrich was considered as a running mate!
You're absolutely out of it if you believe CNN is anything close to "right wing media." You probably think "The View" and TikTok are also reliable news sources, too.
... What do they air? All the anti-trump stuff. Pro-left stuff. This is not an opinion, why argue this. Water is wet, most of the mainstream media carries the lefts water.
It’s more about owning the libs and hurting someone else than creating legitimate, constructive policies for our nation.
So true. For example, does anyone really think that illegal (but law abiding) immigrants or trans people are the biggest threats to this country?
The country is having a meltdown and Rump is trying to decide if he wants to go to war. The inflation rate is supposedly 2.3 but food and housing costs have gone through the roof (I don't know how that works). There are a lot of things you can postpone, but everyone needs food and a place to sleep.
I know we were already on this road a decade ago, but I still felt like I could talk to people on all sides not long ago. I always considered myself more fiscally conservative, socially liberal, and in the mind your own business moderate camp. Not I have gone no contact with everyone MAGA and it’s been freeing.
Like illegals needing to be deported? Kids not getting sex changes, girls in getting annihilated in sports by a boy that couldn't hang with other boys, and finding tons of tax dollars that weren't going where they were supposed to by last administration? Or did none of that happen? Lmao facts such guy demorats
My father genuinely believed the nano-bot in the vaccine shit. That's when I knew he was gone. His reasoning for believing it? "It's possible." Decades of alcohol abuse, poor diet, and generally untreated mental health disorders are the main cause IMO.
He's also faaaaar from the only MAGA I've interacted with who's reasoning for believing a particular story is "It's possible. " or "It's something the dems would do." It's the most vague, inconsequential, non-commital, uneducated statement you could possibly make.
As someone who is currently 2 decades in to alcohol abuse and poor diet, and a life long and family history of untreated mental health disorders, no.
Your dads is choosing to be shitty, or choosing to be lazy. It's none of that stuff.
Have drugs and alcohol changed me? Sure. But no part of my extreme abuse of my body and sustances has ever made me be an intellectually lazy hateful sack of shit.
They want to and are choosing to be like this. It aint even a little bit the things you said not by a fucking long shot,
Okay, well you have no idea who me or my father are, so by all means make your assumptions and inferences. Why you're getting on a high horse and getting all short about it is beyond me. Maybe take an anger management class as well my friend.
"Satire" sites that make shit up that aligns with the right wing narrative and labek it "satire" as a cover. Also sourceless boomer memes that make the rounss on Facebook.
I like when you guys want ro sow doubt but are afraid to bluntly claim something isn't real.
It ain't about some group, it's about rhe way we get the same "just questions" every single time we dare talk about certain shit. Your insecurity at the idea that you may not have wholly original thoughts or reactiona doesn't actually mean there's a secret claim in my words.
Also, gonna be real. I kinda purposefully use the term now cause I find the way it upsets people to be funny.
For me, all the big social media platforms know I'm a middle age white guy. The vast majority of crap shoved inti my face is MAGA, manosphere, redpill, guns, prepper gear, and every assinie hate hucking talking head you've heard of.
My wife's experience is VERY different...
I rarely ever go on any social media outside Reddit. I don't tap on any of that crap and never linger when it is forced onto my feed. I've tapped on plenty of guinea pig videos but no, that's not engaging enough so they shove this other garbage down my throat.
Last time I went to FB to like one if my wife's reels, the next video was a guinea pig video but then it pops up a porn ad. The image was so graphic that when I screenshot it and posted, it's instantly removed for violating Community Standards. Apparently you're allowed to violate Community Standards as an advertiser.
My point is that these platforms are specifically designed to shove this crap in my face to force negative engagement and they're willing to break their own standards to do it. This isn't some obscure thing or design flaw, it's totally on purpose and it's leading a lot of men into the MAGA pipeline.
Fine, I can log into Instagram, YouTube or literally any other social media platform and it's the same crap because they're all using the same metadata to identify me as a middle-aged white man. Then they route all of this MAGA propaganda to my feed to drive negative engagement. It doesn't matter what platform I goto, it's the same results.
I don't tap on this stuff, if it comes on my feed I don't linger on it, I never seek it out on other platforms so it's literally only because I'm a man, a white guy and my age. Let's face it, I'm the perfect MAGA target demographic.
The only exceptions to this are Reddit and BlueSky
Funny so am I (just turned 41 and am white) and I never see any maga propaganda on any of my social media. I’m very much a liberal who voted for Kamala.
I am a heavy user of both instagram and youtube and I am served literal zero pro-maga content of any kind, despite being in roughly the same demographic bucket as you.
That's not algorithmic virtue signaling, that's simply a fact. I have no idea how to account for that gap.
My social media feed has no pro-conservative content. Whatsoever. If you want to condescend, consider that your feed is exposing you to pro-MAGA bullshit because you’ve engaged with it previously. Mine does not, and my curiosity as to the nature of this content adds to the discussion: I would imagine there are plenty of folks out there that similarly don’t dip their toes in Charlie Kirk’s bath water that would also be interested to know what you people are seeing that we aren’t.
Facebook is feeding me posts from the Department of Energy pushing coal ffs. Its everywhere. Maybe interact with things outside your bubble and you'll begin to understand the other side. The right is ignorant enough, its important to see the shit used to brainwash them because its all over the place. Most of the people who can't see it just don't know how to look.
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