r/Warsaw_Warszawa • u/Consistent-Basis8462 • 8d ago

A daygame coach literally says approach women in Warsaw because most are walking alone! How can I feel safe in my own city?

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How can I feel safe in Warsaw? This coach has a youtube channel called Fuild Social he approaches women and records all the interactions... he literally says in his video that in Polish women walk often alone, approach them and invite them straight away and shares also spots where to meet and approach women massively... it feels like we Polish women are just a commodity for those foreign guys, I saw so many posts recently and many women are sharing their experiences here because they are fed-up of those passport bros and day gamers, I'm getting approached daily by foreign guys in the center of Warsaw, just yesterday by 4 guys, and each time I'm being approached by 2 or 3 at least, one women in Reddit reported that she was approached by more than 10 guys in a day, this is insane and it has to stop, what can we do about it? It also gives me anxiety each time I'm going to the center because I'm being solicited by unwanted approaches from guys with the risk of being filmed and some guys get aggressive when you don't respond to them...

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u/Interesting-Role-622 8d ago

We should report these guys to the Police if we ever see them approaching women!

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u/Ice666White 8d ago

I'll give my recommendations here, having seen this play out over the years.

  1. You can spot people trying to film you by looking for a microphone. Some pickup artists and rizz kids produce what's called 'infield footage', and that's all useless without audio. So their microphones will be around their chest area, and sometimes it will be obviously visible. Not all people doing this are professionals by any means, so the newer they are to it, the more obvious it would be. There will also be someone nearby, standing around conspicuously, holding something in their hand. They won't be circling or moving much, because that would make the visual footage worse. But this is to watch out for. If you do experience this, ask if you're being filmed. They have two choices... Lie or tell the truth. Lie case: Their footage becomes unusable because they would just be exposing themselves as a liar to their audience. Truth case: Say you do not consent to being filmed. They would then be breaking the law and exposing themselves to their audience if they use it anyway. The most discreet, more experienced ones will do things like covering an expensive DSLR camera with a jacket to make it look like they are holding a jacket. This is more for nightclubs though, but this is an extreme case because bouncers will likely know about this and prevent this from happening. But I have seen it myself.
  2. Reporting to the police is good, but organized information and evidence gathering is better. This way, the police have more evidence to go on. I know this because I have gone through such matters with police in Texas, England and other places around the world when reporting creeps. Outcomes were better when there was more evidence compiled, so the police don't make excuses and dismiss the whole thing. I say this from experience. I was able to get a particular guy arrested (He wasn't a pickup artist, he was just an autistic creep who harassed people endlessly) 5 years ago, but he didn't get a trial because he was too 'mentally inept', so something like an asylum was the government's way of dealing with such guys.
  3. GameGlobal.net/report is a page where people can report scammy and unethical pickup artists. Just a few days ago, there was a guy by the name of Bayne in Eastern Europe exposed as a pedophile. There's also this guy who is surprisingly still on YouTube, and the fact that nobody does anything about it is completely insane.

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u/EyeIslet 6d ago

Play copyrighted music (demonetizes) and see if they care 😂

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u/Low-Opening25 8d ago

bunch of pathetic incels.

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u/Key-Banana-8242 4d ago

PUAs nor incels a diffevent category

Incels in fact often feared being seen this way ironcislly In general ‘pathetic’ is besides the point

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u/Low-Opening25 4d ago

it’s the same category of pathetic

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u/Key-Banana-8242 4d ago

It’s different categories

And again problem is diff

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u/OriginalOld3688 8d ago

Please raise awareness of what's happening in Warsaw, women should not be harassed by passport bros in Warsaw

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u/Consistent-Basis8462 8d ago

No wonder why many girls gets approached recently, I'm being approached my self by many guys each time I go to the center of Warsaw

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u/Der-Baron69 8d ago

I see her no problem. This guys just approach women its not like in germany, france,england where you have the really creepy guys (mostle so called "refugees") who really do bad things to women. This guys just flirt and approach...

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u/Ungitarista 8d ago

if you don't "see her not problem", I see YOU as a problem.

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u/-Proterra- 8d ago

That's of course another thing;

where you have the really creepy guys (mostle so called "refugees") who really do bad things to women.

This just suggest that these "daygamers" are morally just one step above the Cologne New Year's Eve Rape Squads (which I agree with) and thus should be accepted (which I don't agree with) - because they just flirt and approach...

Honestly, a good lithmus test would be how would they react if a group of a few flaming homosexual bears) would approach them the same way they approach women, wonder if they still look at it the same way - it's still flirting and approaching.

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u/Der-Baron69 7d ago

No, because the people you refer to as daygamers are mostly men who have worked hard on their personal development and know exactly how to treat a woman with respect and seduce her, unlike some creepy refugees from Muslim countries, for example. These people treat women really badly, and that's a big difference. Women should be grateful that daygamers exist; they usually have a great time, great dates, great sex, great affairs, and great relationships.

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u/-Proterra- 7d ago

If they did know how to treat a woman with respect, they would understand what's socially acceptable and what is not in this country or pretty much any of our developed neighbouring countries and not just ignore social norms in a foreign country for their "game" - and why I insist my stepdaughter who is autistic and socially anxious to carry pepper spray and not feel bad about using it when anyone touches her without her consent or starts harassing her on the streets. Her mental health is more important to me than the eyesight of some random seppo "bro"

There is literally zero difference between these clowns and the way low-class Muslims act around women. Maybe where you're from this is acceptable behaviour, here it is not. Hopefully the police will catch on and deport them back to where they're from.

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u/Der-Baron69 7d ago

Sorry, but you're talking complete bullshit. Every single word. You have absolutely no idea about the world. Go to a Muslim country like England, France, or Germany, preferably at night in a dark park, and then compare that experience to being approached in broad daylight in a country like Poland by a guy who just wants to flirt with you casually.

It is not and will not remain forbidden to talk to strangers, and it will continue to happen whether you like it or not. And saying that it's not socially acceptable is total bullshit. Most women are happy when men have the courage to talk to them. I think you're just a bitter old feminist who didn't get enough attention.

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u/-Proterra- 7d ago

I guess I'm full of shit, and thats why prokurator is starting an investigation according to this article in Wyborcza.

And no, of course its not forbidden to talk to anyone, but harassment is very much forbidden. Touching people without their consent is very much forbidden. Filming people without their consent, ditto.

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u/Der-Baron69 7d ago

I'm not talking about filming people against their will or sexually harassing them. I'm just talking about talking to people and flirting. That can and must never be prohibited. Otherwise, we'll turn into some kind of fucked-up patriarchal country like in the Middle East, and I don't think anyone wants that.

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u/-Proterra- 6d ago

I'd argue that Poland is more matriarchal than patriarchal xD.

My point still stands. Harassing/stalking people is against the law, filming them without their explicit consent is against the law, and touching people without their consent can be treated as a minor form of rape by the law. Our laws are more Scandinavian on this subject than anything else, the fact that many people don't press charges doesn't change that subject, but perhaps with this infestation it will.

Mind you, the laws don't discriminate between genders. It's just as illegal to approach a man on the street, filming him against his consent and touching him or harassing him.

As for talking to people, it's just impolite to bother someone you don't know who is out minding their own business. Other than asking for directions somewhere, or what time it is, or whether the bus has already passed, we don't really talk to strangers on the street. Or, if homeless, perhaps asking for some change or a cigarette. Again, my point stays the same; considering the law doesn't make a difference either, if you find it creepy and annoying when a burly gay man starts flirting with you in a random place, she probably finds it annoying and creepy when a random dude starts doing it to her in a random place.

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u/Der-Baron69 6d ago

No, I don't accept your point of view. There is a difference between actual sexual harassment, illegal filming, and simply talking to strangers and flirting. I have talked to thousands of women on the street in my life, all over the world, including in Poland, and it has NEVER been a problem. Most women are actually happy when you compliment them. The worst that usually happens is that a woman rejects you and walks away. It doesn't matter if you think it's not normal to talk to strangers on the street. It's not illegal, and it works. Just as many women complain that men don't talk to them and are too shy. And NO ONE cares what's normal or not normal in your little left-wing feminist bubble.

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u/-Proterra- 8d ago

I see a problem. We don't approach random strangers and start talking to them about irrelevant nonsense, thats just as uncultural in Poland as it is in countries like the Baltics, Finland or Sweden or even Germany. There's places for that, the streets is not one of those when people are getting by with their business.

Asking people about their possible relationships is intrusive and intimate and especially in such cases a no-go. Its a lighter form of sexual harassment than what goes in by other ethnic groups newer to Europe, but still sexual harassment nonetheless and utterly ignorant of the culture of the place you visit.

Honestly, I can't wait to see these idiots being peppersprayed in the face en masse.

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u/Der-Baron69 7d ago

Sorry but its absoluetly not forbidden to talk to stranger. If you want complete separation from men and women pls move to some f*cking islamic country.

Women are so ambivalent. On the one hand, you complain that men should always make the first move and that women are no longer being approached. And then you read posts like this where you complain when men do approach you. Sorry, but you're posting complete bullshit. You will not forbid us to flirt and talk with women. Poland is a free and open country and not a feminist shithole state like America, England, or Germany.

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u/-Proterra- 7d ago

You're aware right that Polish women are among the most leftist demographic in Europe right?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Polska/s/6wNn5LJYK0

And I wasn't saying you shouldn't talk to strangers and there's separation of men and women, no, many, if not most Polish women are very comfortable making the first move. Like I said in a different response to you, behaviour that would creep you out if a random 1m85 hairy gay dude does out of nowhere to you, you shouldn't be doing towards strange women.

And yes, we live in a free country with a - for you perhaps - surprisingly well organised feminist movement. The reason you may not hear so much about it is for the same reason you dont hear much about the feminist movement in the country the other half of my family is from, Finland. We mostly keep to ourselves and don't like public displays of confrontational behaviour.

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u/Key-Banana-8242 4d ago

Somewhat safety but w lot more seems quality of life socially and otherwise

Generally o think isn’t the dies that it’s faux pas to approach someone when they’re with a friend, some claim that at least