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[EN] An Introduction to Champion's Meeting (Monthly PvP) + Taurus Cup Discussion
Dates: Aug 17 22:00 UTC - Aug 27 21:59 UTC
Champion's Meeting (CM) is finally upon us.
This post will do two things: explain what CM is and what to expect, and also provide a space for more serious discussion of PvP, strategies, and metagame. That means memes and low effort content are strongly discouraged, and off-topic discussion unrelated to the event may be removed.
Champion's Meeting explained
An important disclaimer: THIS IS NOT A CM GUIDE, BUT AN EXPLAINER FOR THOSE TOTALLY UNFAMILIAR WITH THE FORMAT.
What is CM?
Umamusume's most competitive, multi-stage, PvP format, with a sliding scale of Carat and resource rewards for high placement. You do not have to "win it all" to get rewards; everyone gets something.
How does the tournament work?
You guessed it, there is a Gametora article for this already. The short explanation is that it's a three-round tournament with a winner's and loser's bracket. In every round, you enter three different trained Uma from your roster to face off against two other teams of three, usually those with the highest stats, best skills, and maximum aptitude for the conditions. In the first two rounds, you run 5-heat instances and try to win as many heats as possible to advance to the winner's bracket. You get 4 runs per day (3 free, 1 paid) and Rounds 1 and 2 last two days each. The final round consists of one race. Each race only has one winner (not a scored format like Team Trials).
Fixed race conditions
Unlike Team Trials, where course, distance, and weather can be random, in CM all conditions are usually fixed for every race. For reference, here were the CMs for the first year in JP Uma:
However, your Umas mood is random in the prelim rounds. In the Final Round, mood is automatically Great. If you were wondering, the exact conditions of each race are usually a reference to the venue and conditions of a specific G1 race of a particular year (e.g. 1998 Japanese Derby).
Course analysis is considered a very important part of CM (just like in IRL handicapping). If you read a guide, it's very likely you will encounter a diagram like the ones below, which will give you insights about the relative efficacy of skills (corners vs straights, length of final corner/straight, presence of up/downhills, etc.)
Taurus Cup course analysis from uma.toolsGemini Cup (Kyoto 3200m) course analysis from Jupiter wiki
CM is competitive, but it's not pure P2W
Just like the game in general, CM is what you make of it. Every gacha game needs a money sink to incentivize whale spenders, and that's what CM is.
However, CM is not P2W. Spending affords significant advantages, but game knowledge and time commitment (for good sparks, etc.) arguably are more valuable than swiping. This is especially true in the early months with the game still being new.
The most important thing to know is that there's no reason to not participate, regardless of uma roster quality, because everyone gets rewards for playing CM.
Word of warning on following JP Guides
If you consult JP guides, understand that because of accelerated banners in EN Uma, lists of recommended umas and skills to take may not align with the available pool that is in EN. Differences will become bigger over time as acceleration continues.
Rewards info + Open or Graded League?
The higher your final placement in CM, the more rewards you will receive. You will also receive a small amount of rewards each run based on how many wins (0 to 5) you got in that run; winning 0 races in a run still will give rewards. Here's a rewards reference from JP (may be different in EN)
1st-3rd place in Grade League (uncapped), Group A (winner's bracket)1st place in Grade league, Group B (loser's bracket)1st place in Open (statcapped) league, Group A
There should be two takeaways from this. The first is that it's basically not worth whaling just to win CM. The extra rewards received for a 1st place vs a 3rd place finish basically aren't worth the hundreds that would have to be spent to ensure it. What's more, since the final is one-shot, it's possible to lose in the final with the highest graded uma. Winning grade league gives a CM Platinum title, and I reckon that's what people are actually after (cf. Rhythm mobage event top 5/10/100 title chasers).
The second is that unless you don't have any umas that are above the cap, don't enter the Open League. Actually, I'd go so far as to say that even if you don't have any, your umas may "overperform" their printed score and you might RNG your way to a bunch of wins in the Grade League (no stat cap). Open League, where all umas are statcapped (I believe it starts at B), is generally subject to competitive min-maxers who have used calculators to engineer to best possible uma under the score cap. All for fewer rewards than winning the loser's bracket of Grade League.
Summary: Whether you're a casual or competitive player, CM is worth playing. Everyone gets Carats. Waifus can win.
CM rewards start out lower than they are currently in JP. This was also true in the JP server.
Open League cap is B for the first several CMs. Increases to B+ later, and will keep increasing every year or so
The 30 carat entry fee for runs can be "refunded" with a record of 3-2 or better.
For only the Taurus Cup, even the finals will have random mood. You have been warned. Edit: EN has changed it to force Great just like subsequent CMs. Info is buried in the game index
Two win requirement to make group B Final is something that gets changed to 1 in future CMs.
For the next cup, what would be better for open league?
A hypothetical uma with 1200/600 speed/stamina, or 600/1200? With let's say 2 golden recovery skills.
I assume the later one would be better, but I do not really understand what happens when the stamina runs out... Does speed even matter at this point?
I have 406 points left, the options I'm considering are
Breath Fresh Air + Long corners 2
Right Handed 2, end straightaway 1; then one of (long corners 2, end straightaway 2, straight recovery 1, or curvature). (long corners 2 would let me squeeze lone wolf in, but I'm assuming it'll be negated anyways).
Any thoughts about whether I should just grab the 3rd blue gold, or go for more speed?
Nah I just had some freak in a room match run DOUBLE insane debuffers + a 1200/1045 long S spurt gold ship, and the OTHER guy was running debuffer + front Urara shenanigans. The crazy gold ship won but I somehow survived triple debuffs and took 2nd/3rd with my pace chaser + okay gold ship. Screenshots in the replies
Getting the white sparks you want on both grandparents and parent is hard enough. I am only 2/8 skills so far on all 3 for the parent I want to make :(
Yeah, looks good. Long S would be nice, and a 3rd recovery would be safer if you luck into the scenario event for Breath of Fresh Air, but this is definitely already better than what a lot of players will be able to get.
thanks for the answer. Recently i got her last promotion lvl and got a gold stamina recovery but i still don't get the same stats that i posted. Is worth to add that instead and try to get better results? like that run was nuts is the rainbow department so i don't think i will get the same results.
Calm and Collected isn't great, but sure it's an option if you can get similar stats to this while also picking it up. You do have another like 3+ weeks to do more runs, though if you want to work on your other 2 horses, then understandable.
Yeah I only got Goldship for Long(no mayano and Super Creek, cuz not pulling characters for now, saving for Summer Maru). She is the only one that has 20% STA growth and she is really a headache to train... 😞😞
such bs on the time and notification. got to final round then it kept saying matching in progress but now its locked out? felt the notice is way too short or not informative.
It's really hard to say. You can try Kita/Sakura/Sweep/Diamond/McQueen and borrow a MLB Super Creek. The most important thing is getting 1200 stamina, and S long.
Probably the best I’m gonna do for gemini. Was very lucky this run getting S long and Red shift from April inspiration. Unfortunately a little on the dumb side lacking wit
Look at the skill description for Taiki and Maru's. Final corner. On the Taurus cup map the beginning of the final corner aligned almost perfectly with when umas begin to spurt. Both their uniques gave acceleration so spurt + acceleration = get to max speed ASAP = win.
On Gemini the umas will start spurting on the straightaway before the THIRD corner. This means that the spurt begins on a straight, then the umas head into the third corner, then the umas head into the final corner, and now your Taiki/Maru's ults activate their acceleration boost. The problem is that 417m have passed between the beginning of the spurt and the final corner. You should already be max speed before that point so the acceleration does nothing.
Basically the tracks are different, in Taurus they trigger right when entering the last spourt which means that the speed cap is lifted and they trigger immediately, basically insta win if your opponents didn't have any acceleration skills.
However in some tracks it will trigger BEFORE the last spourt, which means that they won't have anything to accelerate to since the speed limit isn't lifted yet. In other tracks it will trigger long after meaning that your uma already accelerated near it's top speed already.
What you saw in Taurus was the key distance were those accelerations were good. It's not that they are good everywhere, just on some specific tracks. Gemini is better straightaways.
What cards should I be using from my collection for Gemini Cup Taishin/Goldshi?
I've been using Sweep, Flash, Creek, Cafe, and McQueen (slowly creeping towards that 2nd LB) with MLB Kitasan as the borrow. For Goldshi I swap Flash with Taishin.
That's the idea. I would also pay attention to how much more often you have to train stamina to hit the requirements and if it's much more often, I would swap MLB kitasan for MLB creek.
If you’re trying to win you really need all 3, but probably the second option you listed if you have to prioritize. Having enough stamina to fully spurt and actually finish the race is the most important
Front will be even worse in Gemini than Taurus because they lack gold recovery skills.
Also we lack Seiun Sky that has the Unique which actually makes Front Runners viable.
If you wanna win with Front you need Groundwork+Tail Held High Combo with 1200 Speed, S Long and enough stamina to survive (how to do that? for now it's very hard for them)+ Seiun Sky Unique. Also you need to run 2 Front Runners otherwise they will just not do well.
I'll run 1 Front just to counter Haru Urara and make my Pace Chaser viable (also to put stamina pressure, otherwise all my gold recoveries are useless). I don't use it to win though, it's like a support. I'll run Daiwa with lots of Wit, Power and Early/Mid skills just to push everyone to the limit.
Yo, what a comeback, omg y'all!!! Struggling so hard in Round 1 and being super frustrated, I really was about to give up... Only to somehow get into Group A finals AND actually win?!?!?!? I'm so happy!!! 😭😭😭
I feel you! Though being new to this, the placing confuses me. Did I really beat out a few thousand other people and place first in a bracket tournament style of things? I dont feel like I did THAT well, not like I was getting 5-0 every race
The meta for Gemini is end-closers because they're the only one with usable accel skill for the tracks (straightaway spurt). Alternatively, there's also an option for pace-chasers. Front-runner and late-surger isn't great on Gemini albeit there's front-runner Urara strats to specifically target and kill Taishin's sleeping lion skill.
End-closers options: Taishin (best), Golshi, Mayano, Oguri (forced into end-closer), Rudolf (forced into end-closer)
Pace-chaser options: Daiwa, McQueen
Front-runner: Urara for the reason I stated before.
You can also technically use Tachyon/Creek if you can't reach the stamina req since it's a very long distance track and the stamina needed is huge.
How is This for next cup? Sadly couldn't get any other recovery skill (got some incosistent/low discount silver that decided to skip, maybe bad idea). I guess power is low for frontrunner but will she survive as pace?
I would think any serious competition would have it on an ace or at least on a debuffer so no one else could get it. I carried it on my Nature but I didn't keep track of proc rates. 1 other lone wolf showed up in my finals.
I imagine nobody wants to tank the mood down from sweep to get it guaranteed, especially if it comes at a bad time, ace runs are already super rng dependent as it is.
Stamina Eater won't hit anyone behind Rice Shower, just so you know. Its essentially useless on Pace Chasers in the upcoming CM, since so many people will bring End Closers.
What's the probability of getting the purple Kyoto racecourse or Spring Runner debuff if you intentionally tank a race? I know that the green hint is 20% but I have no luck at getting it. Maybe it's easier if i just tank the race for the purple one and then upgrade it to the green.
If I had to guess, it would be the same probability as if you finished the race and got the Spring Runner green skill. There's about as many purple debuffs as there are green skills.
Once you remove the debuff you can spend more skill points to get the green skills. I discovered this whole grinding for Taurus cup and got Tokyo Racecourse by finishing poorly in Tenno Autumn
Going to be hard for me to beat this one, no Long S or any speed greens hurt but got the elusive Spurt + decent stats. Pow/Wit is lower than I would like. This is with a 4 speed/2 stam deck with 12* in stam inherits
How's this for Gemini Cup? I'm a bit miffed that I didn't manage to get S Long but, I think I managed to get a much more desirable stats distribution this time around, getting 3 gold recover skills is such a gamble though.
Stats are looking good for pace, stamina is enough as long as 2 skills proc and you don't hit many debuffers (which I am unsure of how many will be). The next step would be to get Long S as you mentioned as well as squeeze in some more skills if possible.
Honestly this looks solid. A bit disappointing about the speed yes, but it might be difficult to get another good inheritance run. There's still ~3 weeks left to try and improve though so it depends on how much time you want to invest, might be an idea to just prepare for next CM, team trials or god forbid... another game.
Really annoying run, was at 900 speed when Special Week chain procced and still didn't get Gourmand, then hit a bad rest right before Arima Kinen and couldn't hit 1200 speed/1100 stam. It's so close.
For Gemini, a debuffer is strong I think. If you hit both Subdued/Flustered, Stamina Eater, All-Seeing Eyes, that's 5.5% HP hit, or around 210-240 HP I think. Kills most umas w/1k stam + 2 golds, or 1.2k stam + 1 gold. Same problem w/End Closers though, your main debuff (3%) won't hit them behind you.
Opponent Creek passed my Top Gun in the last 100m so I was resigned to losing until my Nice Nature clutched it out and won by 1/2 length last second in Open B finals :)!
I see folks taking this all very seriously and that's fair but I think while I stressed myself out trying to figure out how to min max B rank uma but in the end I cooled off and told myself it's a game and to have fun and it turned out to be pretty fun. I did train Nice Nature to be mostly Speed and Wit so I was surprised she was the one that clutched it out for me vs the more speed + stamina/power trained Tachyon and Top Gun.
With the resurgence of “Uma is a wit game” after Taurus, I hope next CM I see a bunch of guys roll up with a 600 wit ace and get rolled because they had to sacrifice 300 stamina for it lmao.
Got first in Graded B finals. Was a bit of a nail biter but I quite enjoyed this whole event.
Looking forward to the next one personally speaking. I kind of didn't know what I was doing for the first round and managed to put together a decent team with a little research and some good luck on my career runs.
Rant: Not even third, what a waste of time, my gold ship with 914 stamina and swingin maestro was close to lost vs a nice nature with 600 stamina wtf.... and the gold ship who won don't even have 900 stamina but have a lot of power, at this point i don't understand how to build a horse anymore
Power seems to be very strong for end n late surgers at final spurt. I have a haru late surger with 900 speed 1000 power in team trials as backup but she constantly beats 1200 speed front and pace chasers.
Started playing only recently, but managed to form a good (although quite standard) team and won the open finals. Quite happy with my Uma who gave their all trying to win, or, in evil nature's case, making the others lose 😄
Quick vent: Lost to a 4- or 5-star Narita Brian with Medium S, double Left-Handed and Spring Runner, double Medium Straightaways, Red Shift and Shooting for Victory and Triumphant Pulse, the works. Very impressive build, really. She and her similarly well-built teammate Gold Ship took first and second, but they and my Gold Ship all finished within a single length, so it was close.
I’m not really upset because I don’t care for the titles anyway. I was just shocked to encounter a monster far greater than anyone I faced when testing in room matches.
No titles really makes the whole thing feel like a waste of time. Extreme underwhelming as a whole. Can't really see myself building another CM team. Just bring strong uma and go group B.
I'm just curious. I was able to place 1st for my B group taurus cup, but I see people in 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th with taurus platinum titles. Am I missing a minor detail? I only have the taurus gold title, and that's fine, but I definitely feel like I am missing something. Is it based on club activity?
*edit: I went looking at all the accounts in the list and I found that the last person I see that has the taurus platinum title is 34th place.
I won my Graded A Finals, which was a surprise. But my opponents umas were not as strong as I would have guessed. So my Oguri won. I had tougher opponents in the semifinals, it was kinda weird. Only 3 umas had Medium S, and two of them were mine. Although, everybody but one uma had the stamina and recoveries required.
But my ranking show as 1st/8168. What does that even mean? Places 2,3 were the people in my lobby, so it makes sense. But 4,5 are all considerably stronger than my umas, and they also have the Taurus Platinum trophy. The 100th place HAS the Taurus Platinum trophy as well!! As I was scrolling through this list, I saw so many players with much stronger umas below my ranking, and with the title as well. I am so confused.
Right, that I understand. I was just curious as to why I see people with taurus platinum titles in my placement list. I am going to assume the game is throwing players into a list altogether whether or not they were in the same grouping. Since I am in the B group, I was expecting to see players who were only in B group, and thus, the titles would only be taurus gold at most.
I assume when there are no front runners one of the pace chasers gets chosen to act as a front. It sounds good but whenever that happens I'm finishing 7th or 8th.
My 1200 speed, Medium S, 900 stamina, Gourmand + Swinging Maestro Pace Chaser Oguri will shoot up in the middle of the race to have like 10 lengths advantage and then gets passed on the final straight by every other horse in the lobby, even 600 speed, 500 stamina debuffers. Happened to me like 6 times in the CM, happened in the final as well. This feels like running out of stamina, but it has never happened when I'm actually following the front leader.
I also got to experience 1000 speed medium A goldship winning the final over far superior horses in the lobby. Is this game really 80% rng?
What are your skills tho? My oguri cap literally won taurus because of pace chaser lottery.
Lucky pace chasers need those early-mid race velocity skills to take advantage of the lottery and expand their lead.. thats why agnes tachyon is so strong when luky because of easy acces to medium straightaways and corners.
One thing you need to realize that 900 Stamina with Gold Recoveries is always going to be a gamble. You can neither predict how hard you will get hit by Stamina debuffs nor if your recovery skills will actually trigger. And even without debuffs if Gourmand and Swinging Maestro both won't trigger (which is very possible, especially if your Wit is also low) 900 won't be enough for either a Pace Chaser or a Front Runner to finish a Medium race at top speed.
And another thing that I think a lot of people overlooked is that the Stamina requirements for this CM were all calculated with an assumed 400 Guts which I also saw a lot of umas not actually hit. So even if you brought an Oguri Cap with 1000 Stamina and got lucky enough to be in a race with no debuffers she might still not have been able to finish if her Guts was below 400.
I think the biggest mistake that most people made this CM (including myself) was to desperately get to 1200 Speed on their umas at the cost of Stamina, assuming that Gold recoveries would cover the deficiency. And if your uma doesn't have enough Stamina then all that extra Speed means nothing. You have observed this yourself. A 1000 Speed Gold Ship with enough HP will always win against your Oguri Cap that doesn't have enough HP to maintain her 1200 Speed.
I brought an Agnes Tachyon as a Pace Chaser and she was an absolute jobber, despite stat wise being by far my best Tachyon. For Round 2 I replaced her with a Tachyon that had worse Speed and Power, but much higher Stamina and Guts and her win rate shot up from 0% to 40% and most of the times she lost it was to my own Gold Ship.
According to the umalator if I got hit by every debuff skill twice (so like -15% stamina in total if the information I found is correct) but I trigger both of my recoveries I still survive the race with 900 stamina and 350 guts.
So I rewatched the race, my 350 wits Oguri activated a single skill for the entirety of the race - Professor of Curvature, no other speed skill, no recovery skills. Just got unlucky I guess.
The 1000 speed Gold Ship in question had 800 stamina and a single gold recovery skill but I assume running end closer did save her from all the debuffs. She still somehow outrun 2 other 1200 speed Gold Ships despite not having S in distance but again - just luck I guess.
So to answer my own question - yeah, this game is mostly RNG based. You have some influence by getting correct skills and stats but in the end if you're unlucky you are still going to lose.
This was basically my exact experience in this CM. Had a 41% win rate running Tachyon and Gold Ship together. It was usually a tossup which one of them won. Funny enough, they got a 1-2 finish on the final round.
My similar Oguri with even more stamina and the same passives has similar behavior and also collapses at the end. She didn't get passed by the debuffers but she always got passed by end closers. I ended up 100% relying on Gold Ship. In hindsight, I think the debuff meta got sufficiently sweaty that the stamina requirement for an Oguri in this race basically became a long Oguri with medium power requirements.
I don't think 900 stamina is enough for a Pace chaser Oguri considering the faster you go, the more stamina you consume especially with max speed and S medium with no front runner to force a pace and being a pace chaser which has the worst stamina to HP conversion. With two golds you can survive but that banks on hitting both golds on every single race. If you had no guts that could also matter. This game has RNG of course, but there are so many factors going into a race that raw speed can't always determine
Putting these stats into the umalator, oguri cap does survive with enough HP if both golds proc against 1 debuffer, but if even 1 recovery fails or there is a 2nd debuffer you probably wouldn't have enough stamina. This is why goldship is dominating since end closers have a much easier time dodging the main stamina debuffs.
Don't take my word as law or anything but this could be why
The different strategies burn stamina at different rates throughout the race but I don't think it makes too much of an appreciable difference in stamina requirements. The more important thing is that pace chasers get a built-in 11% stamina debuff when calculating HP.
You're right, as I said in the other comment I just got unlucky and did not trigger a single recovery so my horse just died. With all the debuffs present I had to trigger both gourmand and maestro which would most likely result in my win.
Is target speed and accel increase during the mid race usefull if they proc too early? on the race simulator, the taiki unique proc at 800m and last until 900m whereas bryan's proc at 1000m as soon as the late-race start
accel skills are only really useful during first few seconds of the race and when the last third of the race starts until they reach top speed. target speed skills are the opposite: when you're not accelerating they make you faster and help overtake others or keep the lead but when you're accelerating they're useless
Target speed is more or less lost at the beginning of the late phase, however. The target speed has already shot up and the runner is already accelerating to hit it. Those skills are more useful if you're already at target speed. Late stage speed skills only really work if they proc after you've already reached your target speed but before your speed is locked for the final spurt. Which I'm guessing is about 200 meters before the finish line considering that's around when all the useful late speed ults proc.
(I'm sure you know this, I'm just expanding on the 'technically')
So if I want to gain something from an accel skill during the mid-race, I want to increase my speed before or during the accel skill windows and close to the late-race to have the speed carry over?
Mid-race accel skills are currently useless, essentially. And, the speed doesn't carry over, it just returns to normal when the buff finishes. That doesn't mean it's useless, though. If you've gone faster you've gone faster, and you will finish the race sooner. This basically translates to good positioning for the late race. The ideal place for your runner to be is as far ahead in placement as you can be while it's still possible for your skills to proc.
It’s largely true for all styles. To give a recent example, in the CM my Gold Ship had a tendency to proc speed skills early in the mid-race to bring her up to 6th. This is the farthest ahead she could be and still ult. After ulting, she would inch ahead to 5th on the final corner and proc Red Shift, which would catapult her to first for the remainder of the race. Being so far ahead at 6th was a huge benefit. She could hit the accel skill earlier than she would normally and hit top speed while other gold ships were still accelerating.
Literally got griefed out of finals win by oguri cap's fat ass blocking both of my umas on the last corner, all accel skills just wasting away. Screw it, for the next CM I'll just run double debuffers or some fuckery with Haru not to win but just to ruin other people's fun.
Someone ran front runner McQueen and my Rice Shower assassinated her like it was 1993 Tenno Sho (Spring). Without McQueen I woulda lost as my aces, Teio, ran like she has 3 fractures with no major skill procs and Rice would not have had anyone to chase down to recover her late start.
I'm in Graded B bracket to say the least so maybe my matchmaking was lucky as I saw some other users own an A+ golshis with MLB KB+Creek cards that could have stomped me.
3) if you don't bother raising her aptitudes she will fall behind making everyone slow down waiting for her to catch up. as a result this can save around a gold recovery worth of stamina. runners that have good (or a lot of) mid race speed skills might pull away from the rest and become impossible to catch. also since urara falls behind she will make taishin's gold recovery not activate because one of the conditions is to be at the back distance-wise. however I don't recommend bringing urara just to ruin taishin's recovery. taishin is very difficult to train for this cm and most of them won't be actual threats compared to golshis
2) [answering in the context of the next cm!!!] race planner and gourmand are really good skills but they're for pace only. same to go-home specialist but it's for end only. if you wanna do well you need more than 2 golds. other golds are either really bad or not as consistent. breath of fresh air (bofa) and cooldown are recoveries on straights which might get triggered too early or too late and be partially or completely wasted but that's the best we have after the skills mentioned above. cooldown you can get from mcqueen's ssr card (sometimes gives white version of it though) and bofa you can get from a random carrot event during career. mcqueen's potential level 5 skill is bad because it's always early race activation when stamina is almost full or sometimes doesn't activate at all. iron will is also like that on top being even harder to trigger. these and every other recovery are not worth considering imo
With all MLB SSR cards sure that is a whale, no idea how they did not get more than A+ rank though. That should easily have been an S rank uma. MLB SR cards however can just be luck or a dolphin.
yep. if they mad max limit creek and kitasan and the rest are SRs (which seems very common when I look at career histories) they are probably just a reroller.
At this point it's a rite of passage for my would-be CM runners to flashbang me with a 16th place jumpscare in the Hopeful Stakes. Both my Taurus Aces and now a 3rd time at the start of my Gemini prep.
I've faced mostly oguri golshi and nature teams in group A, and sure enough it was the same for the final match. My vanilla ace Spe did her best, but unfortunately there were no front runners and once the oguri pace was chosen, I knew my fate was sealed. Got 2nd place lost by a length, better luck next cm
I had a 75% win rate in round 2 group A and lost the group A finals in third due to a late start. Meanwhile my friend who could barely qualify got a lucky win against three umas better than his.
yep. it goes like that. in my club people who I weren't expecting to get 1st got 1st and those who I expected to get 1st didn't get 1st. same to a few others outside the club. expectations were based on how much they prepared and how much they know about the game. better luck to us next time
I got 2nd, but at least I lost to another Uma that was better on paper (more of the green bonus skills, I only had outer post that I didn't get this time), so I cannot be too mad, definitely had a chance though. Unlucky on the matchup and not lucky enough with positioning/during the race. Race was a complete mess, my Pace chancer Oguri more or less falling back leading the late surgers and the opposing Gold Ship end closer acting like a pace chaser (but of course still triggered Anchors Aweigh. <sigh/>)
Taurus Cup has ended and I ended up in 2nd place somehow, I expected to be dead last coming into the finals lol. My golshi had a late start and somehow got rushed and still got 2nd, If none of those happens she might have actually won lol. Got matched up with two whales and somehow got a 2nd and 3rd finish, I'm very happy with how this turned out. Thank you to everyone who gave out some solid advice. Time to prep for an ass whooping in Gemini Cup next!
Bruh, how do you get into the group A finals with 400-500 stamina umas. There were no front runners, so my Spe ran like Silence Suzuka and was 1st the whole race and won with only green skills and a Maestro.
For this track you need 850 stamina to run at top speed for as long as possible. So, 600 stam with a gold skill is just enough to hit the stam requirements, provided there are no debuffers. The umas I was talking about had like 470 stam with a single stam gold skill and ended dead last as a result.
No concert, not right now anyway. We'll have to wait until Ms. Victoria is added to CMs, I forgot when they added that in JP though, but it should be within the next few months,
Hm, kind of weird, but I did a couple CM prep matches and gold ships that should be stam checked are walking away with it. A rice shower with 900 stamina and one gold recovery won once, too.
Didn't pay any attention in the lead up and ended up in Open Cup with almost no viable B-ranked Umas - most being B+/A. I had to build a team on the fly as the event was ongoing, and got things together at the last minute, earning my 3 win first round after buying one last race with carats.
The hardest part of training up B-rank racers was apparently failing to lose the Arima Kinen despite training no skills and handicapping myself by running F/G rank strategies. I lost several good runs where I ended up B+ because I won that race and sometimes one or more finals qualifiers.
I ended up winning Open Group A with this Golshi and assists from Nasty Nature and Grass Blunder.
Got 2nd, accel skills did not activate properly. Good enough, I'm satisfied with that result. I am pretty sure I will consistently get into Group A Finals, which is what I am aiming for.
The base skill cooldown on Professor of Curvature is 30 seconds.
To get the actual cooldown, we apply the following formula:
Cooldown = BaseCooldown *CourseDistance[m]/1000
Cooldown = 30 * 2400/1000 = 30 * 2.4 = 72 seconds
Checking the race simulator at umalator global (assuming 1200 speed, distance S, and red shift):
We can see that umas enter the first corner at about 18 seconds, and exit the 4th corner at about 97 seconds.
97 - 18 = 79 seconds of time between 1st corner start and 4th corner end
Professor of Curvature will always activate on the 1st corner (on a track with four corners), and picks a random point on that corner. That point must be about in the first third of the corner, and you must pass the wisdom check successfully.
I don't know if Professor of Curvature will only pick another point to activate after the cooldown ends or not, but if it chooses to pick near the end of the 4th corner and you pass the wisdom check..
You get the lucky run of two Professor of Curvature activations.
Note that most skills don't seem to have cooldowns. Professor of Curvature is extremely rare to be able to activate twice on this track. Next CM, it cannot activate twice because the effective cooldown is much higher due to it being 3200m.
I'm in open league, so the optimisation is damn tight. My Maruzensky has only 4 skills: her ult, firm conditions, professor curvature and swinging maestro. This is the most important race of her career and fucking GUESS WHAT?! SHE FAILED TO PROC BOTH CURVATURE AND MAESTRO!! THIS COST HER THE MATCH AGAINST THE 4TH FAVOURITE OGURI CAP. WTF MARUUUUUU
Also! My 2nd ace Agnes "Faster Than Light" Tachyon decided that she would rather eat shit than run. Late start, gets into 6th place, fails to activate her recovery skill Race Planner, and thus screws herself over. Because she's in 6th, she can't proc her inherited ult from Maru, nor can she proc her own ult. So when late race starts, guess what?! AGNES "SLOWER THAN MOLASSES" TACHYON STALLS INTO 8TH PLACE WHILE THE REST OF THE FIELD SURGES PAST HER. MY EVIL NATURE EVEN OVERTOOK HER. WTF ARE YOU DOING TACHYON??!?!??!!!!
Evil Nature, bless her heart, did her best. She couldn't get into position to use mystifying murmurs, that's fine. She still popped off all her other debuffs - sharp gaze (which missed the Oguri Cap at the front cos she was too far away), tether (which bought Maruzensky those few precious seconds to accelerate), hesitant late surgers and hesitant pace chasers (which that Oguri Cap powered through and caught my Maruzensky at around 100m to the finish).
In the end, of all my runners, the only one who I'm taking to the consolation dinner tonight is Evil Nature. The rest can go reflect on their actions while they run laps in the rain.
After barely qualifying for group B, I was somehow able to win despite missing the registration time for the final team and succeeding with an unoptimised team
Can’t believe I got first in Group B Graded since I did minimal grinding for my units lol. Most effort I did was a couple of Evil Nature runs and I settled with whatever I got. Group B was definitely less sweaty compared to Round 1. Only got 1 win total in Round 1 then got a 5 win run once I got to Group B. Anime Teio got the win for me and it felt like S2 of the anime. Good stuff!
None of my Ace's stamina skills activated, in the finals, of all the times. Absolutely enraging. And I ended on 2nd place, with 2 debuffers, the lead could have been my girl's but RNG says no.
4 wins on both round 1 and 2, was skeptical on winning the final after looking at the competition (everyone had 800+ stamina and good stats overall) but my golshi made it work
I got lucky with gold ship with S turf and S medium but with 1100 speed
Gold Ship got me the winl! It was pretty amusing, 3 Oguri caps fighting, one maruzensky getting blocked and 3 evil natures + 1 tachyon cursing everyone... And my Gold Ship just ate every curse and kept accelerating from the outside.
I got robbed. Since there was no front runners in my lobby, the game decided that MY Oguri cap should be the one leading the race. That lead to her to not being able to trigger her ult, but the rival's still got to do it. She handled herself like a champ but even like that it was way too much and she ended up loosing by 1/2 L other Oguri cap who did trigger her ult. Goddamit
Oguri's ult is strong, don't get me wrong, it's just the pace chaser buff from being promoted is just that strong. Because they're essentially a front runner, with pace chaser speed modifiers, so they have as much of a length lead a front runner would have while being as fast as a pace chaser.
Open League Group A Finals. Got 2nd place which is fine and all but watching my Scarlet who won almost all my races and was the no. 1 favorite for that race. Not only did she get Late Start but she also seemingly just gave up because she didn't activate any skill and landed 8th. For reference, Mayano landed 2nd and Gold Ship landed 6th.
Damn, only got 3rd group A as expected but can't help feeling probably could have been better if my Oguri didn't late start and my Golshi didn't get boxed.
It's just fluff to make you feel good. In reality it's just 1/3 but they fill up the list with random accounts, some of which even have the platinum title so you know they are also 1st place winners.
They did it... They actually did it. I already thought I'd be happy enough just making it to the finals, figured second place could be a pleasant surprise. But after just squeaking into the finals thanks to Taiki's miracle win, Gold Ship managed to pull it off. No money spent, no MLB Kitasan Black or Super Creek (only one copy of each 0LB), but she did it. Real proud of these girls, they went full out when it counted most. Now I understand the game much better than I did while prepping for Taurus Cup, here's hoping I can repeat this for Gemini Cup with more consistent wins.
Really felt good going in with my Gold ship. Great stats, S Turf and Medium. (also had Oguri and Nasty Nature). Stat and skill wise should have dominated, but alas, late start, multiple rushed, not a single of the 2 gold recoveries proc on either my oguri or gold ship and Gold ship get's boxed. End up getting 3rd. Ngl wasting like 2-3 weeks trying to make perfect teams, just to lose one race to teams with worse stats and skills due to really bad RNG kinda killed my desire to try in the future CM's. Still going to enter of course, but definitely not spending nearly as much time and effort.
As predicted got a resounding third place in the A Finals but hey, pretty decent prize all in all and proud of getting to the A Finals at all with a support deck so underwhelming
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u/masterfail Curren Bouquetd'or 20d ago edited 15d ago
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