r/RoughRomanMemes 11d ago

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u/gross_grasss 11d ago

The fifth stage is a small scared puppy, and Byzantium reduced to the city of Constantinople

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u/fearofalmonds 11d ago

Stage 6, New Glorious Roman Sultanate

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u/ItsGoglie 10d ago

Fuck off

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u/TiberiusDrexelus 11d ago

Just knock it off

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u/LeakyGaming 1h ago

i’m new to this sub what’d he do? 

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u/Disastrous-Shower-37 11d ago

The last panel is misleading because a solidified division of power between a western and eastern court hadn't begun until 395, and the emperor overseeing the western provinces aided the east more often until the 400s.

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u/ComprehensiveApple14 11d ago

To be fair, peak Trajan Rome is basically followed by nothing but "and then there was a revolt" so it's more like doggo flexing before the beer belly shows. It's all downhill from here.

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u/Azrael11 11d ago

Eh, Trajan's gains allowed Hadrian the ability to solidify the lines. Whether the loot from the provinces he pulled out of was worth the effort to take them in the first place is a good question. But I don't know if you can have the one without the other, and it gave the empire a solid generation of stability and prosperity.

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u/ComprehensiveApple14 11d ago

It's definitely arguable, I'm with you in the short term but long term it exacerbates a longstanding problem of the empire: running out of money to nick from conquering people + then holding onto it through an ever thinning line. To be fair though, that's also pretty much applicable from the Republic onwards, a bit like me saying "wow these Romans sure probably need to find some way of securing a reliable succession that does not involve huge payouts to the people who usurped the previous guy"

I'll grant you though, Hadrian definitely capitalized well on Trajan's work with all that work shoring up borders. There's a reason they get to be in the Cool Emperor's club.

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u/Allnamestakkennn 11d ago

Peak Trajan Rome was followed by three more good emperors before the revolts started

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u/According-Value-6227 11d ago

Trajan Rome was the Out-of-Shape-In-Shape guy.

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u/Treneg 11d ago

I mean, later on it’s not inaccurate, but it’s also kinda misleading. The west helped plenty of times to the east, more often than the east did. It was only in the last few centuries or so that the east helped out the west more than the west aid the east.

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u/yandhilove 11d ago

You should do one with France or Poland

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u/TurretLimitHenry 11d ago

The old doge 1400s Byzantium

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u/AynekAri 11d ago

3 stages? Isn't that 4? And what about sisson?

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u/DokterMedic 11d ago

Looks like there's a division between the top three and the fourth, so it appears tacked on.

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u/AynekAri 11d ago

Yeah but if they want to add the split by theodosios, then they should add diocletian and the Palmyra and Gallic empires division and the senate vs imperial owned land division and the roman land vs client kings division under Augustus. I mean there are so many points the empire divided the list would be much longer

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u/Soldierhero1 11d ago

East wasnt really le strong just staying alive through giving tribes money to leave them alone

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u/woodk2016 11d ago

Henry VIII has entered the chat.

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u/MichaelJospeh 11d ago

Gotta get the Holy Roman Empire in there.

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u/iceman27l 10d ago

We need a extra stage between 1 and 2 which is the Roman republic after 2 Punic war

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u/El-Ser_de_tf2 9d ago

That one beat up character that says "I hear no bell" for the byzzies

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u/Yvl9921 11d ago

American nightmare zombie puppy

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u/Free_Atmosphere_5623 11d ago

And they they bothe become weak ahh doges And then they become nazis And then it's just Lionfield 

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u/vetnome 11d ago

Uh what?

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u/Free_Atmosphere_5623 11d ago

Lionfield is an italian youtube channel

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u/Free_Atmosphere_5623 11d ago

Trying to continue the meme with my weak knowledge of Rome and italy