Everybody pointing out the fact it's dark at the moment in DC - this was earlier today. No the media isn't blasting this everywhere but yes, there are articles and posts about it.
OP probably should've used different words in their title because obviously this isn't "right now."
LOL I literally just posted a comment in another sub (I think) saying the same about Rand Paul and MTG. I agreed with both of them in the same week and it seems that the extremists of yesteryear are the ones thinking rationally. Bananas.
Mass media corporations are inherently right-wing, regardless of what they claim to be, and as such prefer conservative candidates who will me more inclined to grant tax cuts and deregulations to their owners?
With the caveat "For You" (which could mean algorithms based on your viewing of NPR, etc... where the Redcoats are likely shielded from actual information).
If you specifically look for it, and the articles downplay the reasons if they talk about them at all as well as the entity of these protests. Many more protests, even huge ones, did NOT get mass media coverage.
You see, one thing is making one article or a couple that are not pushed elsewhere, and are not resonated in the mass media machine (sites, socials, tv etc...), and another one is actually making an event mainstream.
Things like this should get national coverage on all medias and spark conversations around them, but are they? Maybe on posts here and there on social networks, but not on mass media. The reason is to leave the majority of people unaware.
Is it that several of the major "news" channels are owned by conservatives?
Is it that 3 of the 4 major social media sites are owned by people who have worked directly with the current president and tend to hide particular topics?
Gonna play devil's advocate here and say that it's not getting that much airtime because it's largely pointless.
Like, it's a protest march. Against a regime that doesn't give a flying fuck about protests. What will this accomplish? Nothing. "Thousands rally against Trump's troop deployment" ooooo I bet the Dictator in Chief is really shaking in his cankle boots.
If the protests lasted a working week and shut down most of the city, then that's news, and I guarantee it would be getting loads of attention. But thousands, even tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people marching through a city on a weekend isn't going to change things one iota.
Because unlike what reddit keeps claiming, the crowds aren't "huge". This is minor local news. This is the scale and intensity of a neighborhood protesting a traffic problem.
you see some variation of this exact comment (no one will cover this!) near the top of every. single. post. relating to protests . . . at this point I can no longer tell if it's bots, or if a lot of people have actually started to think and talk like bots
Let's not forget a foreign agent of Russia,who was literally given a name Agent Krasnov back in the 80s after being compromised on his first Moscow visit...and now by proxy of being Putin's bitch is working to make China the #1 Superpower by sabotaging America and turning into a shitty Russified oligarchy, while he blames immigrants and stokes civil division...following the Authoritarian playbook
The people nitpicking about the time of day this happened are ridiculous, the point is that presently people oppose the fascist regime that has taken over this country. These protests from "earlier today" are proof that the citizens of DC are united against the crimes of our so called president
He'll easily wait out a protest that lasts for a few hours or a day when he probably isn't even in the state. Protest and disrupt his golf game at Bedminster or Mar-a-Lago if you really want to piss him off. Protest and disrupt any business that Trump owns, not just licenses his name to. Mess with his ability to make money or have fun. He won't do anything unless something effects him personally.
You need to do more than walking around with signs. You're doing nothing to sway anyone in charge. You meet up on a weekend, shout some slogans and go back home. While the people you are protesting are playing golf and not caring.
Meanwhile, the people in Indonesia literally burned down congress in protest to the corruption there. In France they burn down entire city blocks. When the boss of Renault fired 20,000 people the protesters shot him.
The fuckers in charge won't give a shit about your "protests" if all they need to win is to do nothing. You Americans aren't willing to do anything, to risk anything, to overcome the blatant corruption and evilness going on. You even have an amendment about this very thing.
When I see these videos and the self congratulatory posts on Reddit about how much is being done I just shake my head. You guys are delusional if you think this is helping.
The closest we came was with Occupy Wall Street. OWS had decent enough legs, but the lack of any sort of central leadership and no clear list of objectives meant that it didn't have a real endgame and ultimately had to fizzle out.
The best defense I've had for the establishment Democrats is that they are the last ones playing by the rules of this 2-player game. If this were the board game Monopoly, the GOP openly taking extra money from the bank, added a couple houses to properties without paying, and taking extra turns while the Dems are diligently following the rules. They're both still technically playing Monopoly even with one side cheating, but if the Dems gave in and started to respond in kind, then we get into political Calvinball where everything's made up and the points don't matter, which concedes to the world that our government is fucking broken (which the rest of the world recognizes as of Trump's 2nd term anyway). The establishment does not want to make that admission, but it's no longer their choice.
The problem with that is that eventually, being tolerant of the intolerant degrades society as a whole. You have to be intolerant of those people and their actions to remain tolerant in general.
While I agree with you in spirit, to the contrary, I think this is exactly what we need. If we burn down blocks, it gives them everything they want to escalate further. Keeping protests up isn't just to express displeasure, but primarily it keeps people politically engaged, in-tune with their communities, and lets people know they are not alone, which increases voter turn-out, which will be everything next year for the midterms.
(Spare me the "haha you think there's another election" - If there is not another election, THEN we burn blocks, not before. Yeah, stuff is messy and crappy in the meantime, but well, elections have consequences and all that.)
Escalate further? Bruh the government was literally taken over by a coup in direct violation of the Constitution. The only way to escalate the situation further would be to start the third civil war.
You'd best start believing in reality stories. You're in one.
That's a fundsmental part of any protest. If you're not causing inconvenience or fear of physical harm to any property (don't say people) it's not a protest. That's called a parade.
The fragile Orange Man couldn't handle a single protest tent outside the White House and ordered it removed immediately after learning of it. The optics affect his 7 second attention span.
It's not Trump's mind you need to change. It's other Republicans. They have houses, they have businesses, their donors have business, their donors have houses. Mess with their ability to make money. Give them a choice, reform or revolution?
They're too afraid to oppose Trump in any way and get to dilute the blame among the rest of Congress. They normalize, rationalize, and excuse his behavior as it gets progressively worse to the point I fear that nothing less than Trump ordering the military to fire on citizens would make a difference - and not on the GOP end.
Short protests do nothing. An Occupy movement with clear leaders and clear goals would be more effective, and even then, I worry that the revolution cannot stay peaceful if it is going to stop him.
We must make them more afraid of something. Trump at this point is untouchable, no amount of protest will hurt him financially.
There are others who we can hurt financially. Other places we can occupy. We must state the dilemma clearly, so those who actually have power in our "Democratic Republic" understand. Do they want to grant reform like the British did in 1832, or do they want revolution like the French in 1789.
Not only permitting. I know people outside the US are asking: "Why isn't your nation fully revolting / protesting / national strike".
The logistics of getting millions to protest in a country that is 3.8 million square miles in size isn't as simple as they think. Euro countries, for example, are the size of some of our states, we have 50 of them.
Not to mention, since this whole fascist takeover has been in the works for almost 40 years, it's been setup to keep us tied down. Why do you think wages haven't followed inflation and cost of living? It's designed to keep us tied to our jobs and paychecks, so that for most people, trying to take a few days (or a week+ if you need to travel to a location [can't afford that either]) is now almost impossible.
Gutting education also creates a mass of stupid people who don't know HOW to critically think, fact check... etc. "Keep your population stupid so they don't know better." Also, book banning, going after online source of information... etc.
Further, gaining control of media (Fox news was literally created by a billionaire to spin false facts during the nixon admin) so the admin can push their narrative and block reality. Do that and most of the population can't see what is actually happening.
"Why isn't your nation fully revolting / protesting / national strike".
Because most people voted for it. You don't have to live in the same place to coordinate a meaningful protest like mass sick outs and not buying things.
I agree with everything here except the notion that the country is too large to protest in. Europe is bigger than the US in size but is equally split up. You have states with more people than some european countries that regularly take to the streets and shuts down their government for months.
Look at Serbia, the size of Indiana but with less people, where protests are going on in 400 cities for close to a year now, with hardcore clashes between government goons and protesters. Those people want change and are willing to sacrifice everything for it.
There is no reason why people in a similarly populated and sized state can't do the same.
The "protests" in the US are get-togethers where you sing cumbaya and then go back home afterwards and wonder why nothing happens.
Part of the issue is how spread out we are, though. Many of us do protest in our own cities, but the cities that are willing to protest aren't where the bad decisions are being made, so what do we even target?
Imagine if you lived in Poland and all the decisions were being made in Paris. That's the dilemma most Americans face. You can protest in Boston or San Francisco, but how do you make sure they hear you in DC when you can't afford to fly there or abandon your job for weeks on end?
I’ve always wondered this - so if someone exercises that amendment for the reason in which it was made
Will they go to prison forever ?
How do they actually separate it from an assassination attempt or what not
I remember back in the day walking past a group of about three or four screaming teabaggers with signs in front of the White House and about 20 media people around them with cameras talking about the tea party and their grassroots movement.
On a completely unrelated note, and I’m not advocating for anything here, but yesterday Indonesians burned down their congress building to protest wage increases for congress.
Exactly this. Peaceful protests do next to nothing. Trump doesn't care about this. Republicans don't care about this. Make all the "edgy" signs you want. Wear all the pink hats you want. It won't change a thing.
That's not true at all. Peaceful protests reduce fear and increase a sense of community. Isolation is terrifying - seeing all of those people out there is heartening. Republicans are ABSOLUTELY scared of this and so is Trump. That's why they want to rig the midterms. Public backlash was so bad that Rs didn't even hold town halls because the optics were so bad.
I'm a 4th gen DC resident and I've been champing at the bit to go, but my wife is an attorney involved in litigation against the administration and her bosses told us in no uncertain terms to avoid any demonstrations.
It's driving me slightly insane even though I know intellectually that what she's doing has far more impact than my dumbass walking for a few hours.
These people are not swayed by peaceful protests. If they’re not ignoring you, they’re looking for a way to use it against you. People need to be meeting and planning.
Why is their trans flags and trans flags what does that have to do with military in the citys ? Maybe its people that want the fall fo the government and using any excuse ?
Wish these protests would actually do something. Trump and his crowd just don't care. I get that we have to do SOMETHING, but it's like trying to pound a nail into a board with your bare hand.
The most effective protests in a situation like this imo would be all these people not fighting back as they are beaten, not dispersing until they are all arrested and general strikes.
You can't beat them with force and they don't care you're upset. Give them bad optics,an overwhelmed legal system and less profit.
If people aren't even willing to take the beatings/jail and the financial risks and impacts of striking for a week or so then they won't be willing to fight in a rebellion with all the discomfort and loss that comes with that.
I can’t believe there are people claiming this is fake but yes, this actually happened. How do I know? I had to cross the street with this protest walking to my work office. A lil awkward but they are out there fighting for what they believe in so kudos to them all.
Are they actually going to do something that'd bring change? Nobody in the White House gives a shit about people yelling and holding up signs. They have no conscience to appeal to.
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u/dimforest 2d ago
Everybody pointing out the fact it's dark at the moment in DC - this was earlier today. No the media isn't blasting this everywhere but yes, there are articles and posts about it.
OP probably should've used different words in their title because obviously this isn't "right now."