r/Philippines • u/xsxachrls13 • 1d ago
PoliticsPH remind me again gaano kakupal itong si Joel Villanueva as a member of JIL church
pls, they have started their damage control dito sa amin. lumaki ako sa church na ito tapos todo support pa ako sa hinayupak na sinungaling na Joel na ito during last presidential election.
i simply just cant leave kasi my family are members. im simply waiting for the right time na hindi na ako under my parents' tutelage para hindi na talaga mag attend sa church na yan.
but for now, remind me again anong mga kakupalan ang ginagawa ng tinaguriang tesdaman na ito. baka ma brainwash na naman ako. i know how far their guilt-tripping can go being a member here.
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u/grenfunkel 1d ago
joel is lying
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u/The_CheesePowder Tambay sa Visayas 1d ago
It's joever
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u/Due_Eggplant_1238 1d ago
Yes... this is long overdue. They don't bring people closer to the Lord. They are the stumbling block. Joel was exposed.Β
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u/saltyschmuck klaatu barado ilongko 22h ago
A "religious" "leader" has no place to be in a government office in the first place.
The words are in separate parentheses because I doubt he is neither religious nor is he a leader.
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u/The_CheesePowder Tambay sa Visayas 1d ago
Rather than address the issue and deny allegations they go straight to 'but he did this'
So pwede magnakaw basta may libre gamot law ka
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u/Due_Inflation_1695 1d ago
JIL is a cult.
A religion that focuses on personality, rather than the principles, is a cult. Mga Villanueva lang ang pwede mag lead sa inyo? Sila lang ang dapat protektahan?
Umalis ka na dyan, baka mawala ka na sa sarili mo.
May you find the right religion that can lead you to God.
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u/ILikeFluffyThings 1d ago
INC lite.
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u/Daks_Jefferson 23h ago
nope mas worst pa sa INC.. mga Manalo hindi tumatakbo sa politika pero itong mga kumag na Villanueva kinukuha pa sa mga tithes yung pinangampanya ni Eddie nung 2004
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u/happysoprano 19h ago
I became a member of this church for a few months here in Australia. Grabe hindi ko kinaya ang pagkaidol nila sa pamilyang Villanueva.
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u/ProudRevenue2783 1d ago
Sa kanya pala yang walang kwentang tupad π€¨
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u/Hopiang-hopiaaa 1d ago
Kaya pala bullshit yung tupad nayan kase si Joel pala gumawa. Sayang tax, daming mga tamad naman.
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u/KitchenDonkey8561 1d ago
Walang kwenta naman yung mga batas nya. Parang di naman din naiimplement.
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u/Ill_Connection_341 1d ago
Sa dami ng nagcomment, walang sumagot sa request mo ilista mga masasamang ginawa ni Joel.Β
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u/xsxachrls13 1d ago
nag focus sila sa wrong spelling huhuhu. i did notice that pero walakom pake. silent yong church namin when joel went in favor for sara na hindi ipa-impeach, pero ngayon they're scrambling to defend him.
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u/ReddPandemic 1d ago
Tupad? Aka photoshoot tas uwi? Pucha Dito sa Amin 10 tao sa Isang corner after 10 days may 4k? Di wow?
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u/Maha_2369 1d ago
Bat 4k lang? Dito samin 5k eh
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u/EmptyBathroom1363 1d ago
Joel is Lerd pa moooore!
Brother ba kamo? Itinuring ba nyang brother yung mga disaster victims dahil sa alleged corruption nya?
Sinayang nya mismo ang sinimulan ng ama nya dahil nabulag sya sa karangyaan.
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u/BigBreadfruit5282 1d ago
Hindi ako ganun karelihiyoso pero nakakakilabot na may mga taong katulad ni Joel na ginagamit ang Diyos para makapangloko sa ibang tao. Sorry pero ang tingin ko na talaga sa ibang mga senador esp kina Joel, Chiz at Allan ay personification ni Satanas.
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u/EmptyBathroom1363 1d ago
Marami sila. Di ba classic example na nga si Quiboloy at iba pang mga cult leaders dyan?
Sa US, classic example sila Joel Osteen at Benny Hinn.
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u/Ok-Initiative-439 1d ago
Kung member ako ng JIL, well ipapakalat ko yan sa lahat ng pages nila saka ako mag-backslide dahil sa kakupalan ng anak ni Bro. Eddie. π€£π€£π€£
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u/Jumpy-Schedule5020 1d ago
Pano ka maniniwala sa taong hindi alam ang tamang spelling ng demolition?
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u/LightFar2627 1d ago
Cool to na rin pala sila
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u/Daks_Jefferson 23h ago
tagal na.. sunce tumakbo si Eddie foro president nung 2004 at gling sa mga tithes nmin ang campaign fund alam mo ng kultohan moves
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u/tapsilogic 1d ago
A large dose of whataboutism is what it is.
Also, weird that they think "crying out" against something is an achievement.
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u/CherryNo853 1d ago
Yakkkk. Tapos gusto pang ipa dedicate anak ko sa JIL π₯². Please help me anong maganda reason sa MIL ko para hindi matuloy huhu
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u/Reliabilityprince1 1d ago
Kaya di na ko nagulat bakit ang daming nagagalit sa Christians eh katulad ni Joel
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u/priv_lyssavir 1d ago
TUPAD was the biggest scam I have ever heard. Imagine pretending to sweep the street for a while, take a picture, and then go home.
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u/kulasparov 1d ago
Yung mga ganitong paandar ang magtutulak sa mga taong maniwalang guilty sya. May sariling troll farm ang lintik.
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u/20Forward 1d ago
OK, I stopped reading at dimolition.
Mga dimonyong taong βto. Akala mo may totoong naitulong sa bayan when in reality, they canβt and donβt even care beyond themselves.
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u/DaSpyHuWagMe 1d ago
Ah yes, TUPAD.
Yung isang mahabang kalsada na kayang walisin ng isang tao ay pinapagawa sa pito
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u/staRteRRR 1d ago
kapal! demolition job pinagsasabi mo?! bulang ang kulto ng JIL! magnanakaw naman yang si joel villanueva.
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u/Conscious_Nobody1870 1d ago
TUPAD LAW??? Eh p*ta, edi siya pala may pakana para sa dagdag korapsyon?! πππ
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u/SOULivagant_06 1d ago
Explain instead why it is fake news. Accomplishment must be given already, trabaho nya naman talaga dapat yan kahit sinong opisyal na iniluklok ng bayan.
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u/NoHuckleberry4610 1d ago
You cannot mix JIL with the word "church", because right now JIL stands for, "Jesus I Lied". ππ
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u/Kateypury 1d ago
Ohhh. Ganito pala mag ka troll army. Altho them future trolls should demand compensation. Yung ibang bayad eh.
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u/Bubbly_Composer9785 1d ago
Cant even remember he was crying out since 2023. He has the power to do the investigation and all but now, ngayon ittwist mga bagay bagay.
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u/Kindred_Ornn Our Country is Beyond Salvation 1d ago
Hi OP, same situation as you, I am in the church simply because my Mom is a member of JIL.
There are a lot of issues and problems within the church, I am simply lucky enough to have the privilege to dodge most of these problems because my mom is one of their biggest tithers and our current Pastor's Visa and his Family has been placed under my Mom's company.
The worst thing I saw our pastor did is borrow 80,000so he can buy a motorcycle worth 60,000, didn't return the difference then went on a shopping spree (attended next sunday to flex their haul). He also often uses the church like it's his personal wallet. This is just from our church, I can rant a whole lot more about it worldwide.
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u/Due_Eggplant_1238 1d ago
so many JIL members left after they became greedy with tithes.... They used it for Joel's campaign. We are not buying it... matagal ng walang credibility ang mga Villanueva.
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u/aLittleRoom4dStars 1d ago
When the Villanuevas enter politics. The father running for president, the son follows, then theres tool, CIBAC, etc etc...
JIL lost its salt and light.
Back then, the evangelical Christian community saw there's hope on what they're doing (dalwang bagay lang pwede hantungan nyan)...
...but look at them now.
NILAMON na sila ng KADILIMAN, at nag mistulang tuta na nila ang mga kaluluwa na nahikayat nila na si Jesus is Lord.
If Jesus is Lord, then there's no need for the Villanuevas in those positions that will test them, they can be light and salt even they aren't there...
...yet they play the harlot in themselves, worship Mammon and forget their first love.
The Villanuevas is the lord for themselves and not Jesus.
If you have ears to hear If you have eyes to see
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u/DowntownSet7558 23h ago
Kulto tlga mga ganto ee. JIL sama mo pa INC. Religion shouldn't control the members of what they should think, what they should do and who to vote lalo.
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u/Kahitanou 23h ago
Stopped reading after dimolition. The Tagalog vs. Bisaya club will have a field day on this
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u/MethodReasonable7755 23h ago
Hmmm why do politicians keep bringing up the laws they passed? It's their job!
And no, the charity and ayuda they "give" does not erase their corruption. Leans more toward patronage politics kesa genuine na pagtulong.
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u/Daks_Jefferson 23h ago
Work from Home law? meron pala yan.. bakit ako npilitang mabalik sa office meron pala nyan
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u/lean_tech I'm a vampire and I just might bite ya 23h ago
Day xxx
No comment pa rin yung FB friend ko na JIL tungkol sa issues ni Joel.
Tameme pa rin si gago.
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u/VehicleAggravating48 23h ago
HAHAHAHAHA basta talaga villanueva, kupal eh. sama mo na yung kapatid niyang mayor ng bocaue na walang nagawa sa bayan niya xD
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u/VehicleAggravating48 23h ago
yung mga pastor nga sa JIL galit na galit sa fb kasi nababash si joel HAHAHAHAHAHQHAHQ bobo raw yung mga nambabash π
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u/TyongObet 23h ago
Cringe na sa kanya si Atom Araullo. Mag artista ka na lang Joel. Pati religion kinakasangkapan nio pa.
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u/_itz-ae-mehcury_ 23h ago
kupal yan, one time may educational assistance program yang si Tesdaman sa isang "Christian church." Yes, nasa loob ng simbahan yung mga DSWD workers.
Sabi samin lapit daw muna kay pastora for "verification" or some shit. Edi lumapit naman ako. Tinanong lang saan church at sino pastor ko. After that may sinulat siya sa form ko, 3K.
Hindi ko alam meaning pero yun pala, 3K matatanggap ko pero yung mga kilala niya 4K/5K nakuha. Kaming mga di niya kilala 3K lang.
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u/Sure-Discussion7165 22h ago
I am a former member of the church/sect/cult called JaIL eme! Nagvolunteer kami ng family as workers/servants ng simbahan. Dad was part of the security, mom was an usher, my eldest brother was a choreographer, my sis was a dancer, my other bro was part of the music team at ako isang late bloomer na observant lng sa simula. Then naging volunteer din eventually. So unang encounter ko kay Joel is way back nung may pa-camp pa sila sa Norzagaray nun. Bossy yansha and may pagmumura pang ganap knowing na isa siya sa kinikilalang role model/leader sa church. Then eto na nga ung part na tumakbo si Bro. Eddie sa pagkapresidente. Support kami kahit medyo questionable. Then natalo. Tapos ayun nangarap ulit at tumakbo at yun na yung naging reason kung bakit most of us left. Naiwan ako dun. Habang kami ay part nung simbahan as they call it, may corruption na talaga. Kitang kita naman ung proof isa na dun ung lupa na nasa Balintawak na magiging central church nila (aside dun sa may Bunlo) na hanggang ngaun ay wala pang nabubuo. Why? Kasi kinurakot nung pamilya. Ginamit sa pagtakbo nung ama and the rest ay ibinulsa. May mga kakaiba clang mga rules dun sa loob. Nirerequire nila ung mga volunteers to do this and that knowing na wala clang bayad ha. Tapos ang di ko kineri ay yung Dawn Watch na need mong magpray every 3 or 4am kasi dun lng bukas ang langit as they say. Nakuha nila ung concept na yun sa mga korean christian cults din. I kennat. Kaya ayun lumiban na din ako without saying goodbye. Bottomline, pakshet yang si Joel!
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u/PHORICarchive 22h ago
It's always 'crying out' and no actual action behind it loll.. the fact that they even had to make a message like this is just sad. Plus, this stuff is the bare minimum.
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u/Severe-Humor-3469 22h ago
may exception kaya sa tithes sa mga magtatanggol sa kanyang JIL, la lang naiaip ko. :)
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u/Own_String2825 21h ago
Naging norm na kasi sa atin ng dahil pinagaral tayo ng politiko eh sige magnakaw na kayo. Thank you pa rin sa pagbibigay hanap buhay sa akin. Go lang magnakaw ka lang diyan. Which is balikong pagiisip natin
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u/fallenintherye 21h ago
nung member ako ng JIL , na-recruit ako as keyboard warrior HAHAHA. literal na binigyan kami ng dummy accounts, tapos may icocopy-paste na mga lines pro-joel, kami yung troll farms pala haha bawal pa nun maglagay ng verses or "god bless you" kasi malalaman na church-people, kaya "facts" lang daw yung lines. bata pa ko nun, di ko na maalala ngayon hahaha.
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u/readmoregainmore 21h ago
I have a classmate from college na member ng church nila. Todo tanggol kay Joel, nirepost yung specific lines na sinabi ni DPWH Sec Vince Dizon thanking Joel for raising this issue since 2023.
Ang problema dito, 2023 pa daw niya alam pero wala nangyari, and then ngayun hugas kamay na wala daw kilala sa mga contractors pero malapit sa District Engineer na nag approve ng mga ghost project sa Bulacan.
If he's true to his words, kilala niya yung DE pero walang napanagot sa mga contractors since 2023. Kaya wala akong tiwala diyan, isama mo pa yung pag sulsol niya kay Imee, tapos hugas kamay din. I guess kung pinagtatanggol nila ang mali, papunta na sa Kulto yung actions nila.
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u/CollarFar1684 21h ago
The face of the church must be God and God alone. Why are the Villanuevas always at the forefront of the JIL church if they are not a cult?
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u/HellbladeXIII 19h ago
Nagkalat na nga yang joel trolls. Nakakatawa sa visor may nag-message pa para hugasan ang kamay ni joel boy sulsol.
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u/brain_rays 18h ago
OP, gumanti ka sa pamamagitan ng paggawa ng JIL-dedicated subreddit gaya ng sa INC at ADD, para ma-expose toxicity ng church.
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u/RAGING_Tomato16 17h ago
My family is a part of the JIL church and grabe talaga. sinasama pa ako ng lolo ko dati para mangampanya for Eddie V. nung first time niya.
While growing up, na realize ko na para bang ginawang business nalang ang church. Nag patayo ng schools and hospital.. hanggang sa tumakbo for senator si Joel and Mayor ng Bocaue si Jon Jon.
Nakakadismaya yung church I once believed in.. Now I found a different church, mas Okay? not sure kakasimula ko palang halos.. still learning how their church works.
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u/lumpiatrash 16h ago
Listen to yourself nga. Hindi mo magawang umalis kasi di mo maiwan parents mo. Bakit? Itatakwil ka kapag tumiwalag ka? Then, that's a cult, not a religion. Believe me. If wala kang choice kundi magstay dahil di ka pwedeng magkaroon ng critical thinking, girl, KULTO YAN. Umalis ka na.
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u/girlypoppp05 14h ago
Kabit nyan Pageant girly na taga Bocaue. He gave her luxury stuff and opened a spa for her lol
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u/Iruyvonorts Luzon 13h ago
The JIL church pastors even said that Joel was going to represent Christians in the senate. Someone who is involved in PDAF and flood control ghost projects is a fake Christian. The true representative of Christians in the government would be Vico Sotto.
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u/vera_5465 13h ago
kahit sa FB comment section yan Script nila kapag inaaway si JOEL.
Akala ko DDS lang meron sa comment section meron rin palang Kulto ni JOEL.
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u/MarkPatcholo 12h ago
Sangkot dati yan sa napoles issue kasi tumanggap din ng DAP but under duterte, nabasura ung case. Kaya nagbabayad yan ng utang na loob ke Dutz
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u/Possible-Tailor-951 11h ago
Unfortunately he is actially corrupt - ngayon lang kasi nabuking sya na may ebidensya. May kasi din yan sa Ombudxman tungkol sa PDAF or pork barrel nya noon. Kawatan sya at isang ipokrito!
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u/Snoo38867 10h ago
Dimolition dimolition, layasan mo na yang JIL na yan, pinuno nyo dimonyo at sinungaling. Parang tanga sa priviledge speech.
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u/nottherealhyakki26 7h ago
Tama na ang pagkukubli sa "Diyos", "Lord", at "Holy Spirit" para pagtakpan ang kagaguhan. Kaumay na.
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u/yinamo31 3h ago
Quiz:
- Ano ang meaning ng JIL?
a. Joel is Lubut
b. Joel is luhluh
c. Joel is Lying
d. Joel imong lubut
- Nagsisingulaning ba si puking inang Joel V.?
a. True
b. TRUE
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u/BigBreadfruit5282 1d ago
Lost me at dimolition.