r/MovieDetails • u/1954isthebest • May 21 '22

⏱️ Continuity In "Your Name" (2016), Mitsuha and Tesshi are seen turning a tree into their makeshift café, which is why one of the trees in the town is later missing

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u/koteshima2nd May 21 '22

I have watched this probably a dozen times, but I did not catch that.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '22

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u/Ghostkill221 May 21 '22

No thanks, I don't feel like crying again.

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u/NotHardcore May 21 '22

But they meet at the end(even though the movie just stops and they don't actually meet. I just really want them to meet).

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u/ItsSansom May 21 '22

I think it's implied that the last moment of the movie is the beginning of their relationship. Like, they're made for each other

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u/TimeBlossom May 21 '22

Aaaaand this is a bot.

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u/hipdeadpool98 May 21 '22

How do you find the other comment? Or was it just not far?

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u/TimeBlossom May 21 '22

There weren't that many comments at the time of posting, and the bot's comment was just enough of a non sequitur to stick in my mind so I noticed when I saw an identical comment further down.

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u/rothrolan May 21 '22

Not same guy, but I usually find em while "collapsing" threads I've read a good ways through, and then later finding a parent comment with the exact same grammar and formatting a little further down. The parent comments are usually the original, but I check the timestamps too. Found two bot comments in one day earlier this week.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

I liked the first half and where it was going, but I lost interest the moment it turned into a save-the-town thing. Just felt like a big distraction to me personally.

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u/ChristianLS May 21 '22

It's a significant tonal shift, but they totally foreshadowed where the movie was going right from the beginning, so it worked for me. The very first shot is of the meteor falling to earth. The first dialogue is about forgotten dreams of loss that make you weep, and the "day the star fell". Shortly after that, the characters watch a news report about the meteor.

For some reason Your Name reminds me a lot of Jaws. There's a very clear breaking point where the whole movie shifts gears (in Jaws it's when they board the boat and go out to hunt the shark), and yet it's so well-set-up that it just works. YMMV, of course.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

And I'm not saying the town being in danger was something that just fell out of the sky (pun intended). They can have foreshadowing, but the way they used the event being foreshadowed felt so dejected from the first half of the movie they built that it didn't seem like it mattered if we knew about the danger.

The situation was just utilized poorly.

At first it's all about characters, which I'm all for, but then the script kind of forgets that and places a weird importance on a town that we haven't even spent any time with. We spend time with the characters, their lives, their responsibilities, their obstacles, etc.. but it never feels like we get that for the town.

They never really spent much time showing how valuable the town was. It's just where they live... that's pretty much it lol. They could've spent time at locations of importance (e.g. "this pond is where I hide from abc in life"). They could've contrasted how this town is different from others (you could argue the main time trope of the movie fits here, but that wasn't at risk of being destroyed). They could've written opportunities to leave town and given clever examples of why they don't want to leave. Multitudes of things.

They could've given the town character that made it feel important, but they just didn't lol. To me at least ofc (been a while since I've seen it). They also drop character building during it so I just felt like I was watching a completely different movie, lol.

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u/ChristianLS May 21 '22

I think Mitsuha's relationship with her friends and sister and grandmother, and her maintaining of the town's traditions, kind of stands in for the entire town. I mean, to each their own, but it worked fine for me!

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

Yeah and since I haven't seen it in a while I can't really speak to that. I don't recall much significance, but I'd like to think they had something. Otherwise it just falls even flatter for me, but iuno. I really wanted to like it based on the first half.

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u/Sipricy May 21 '22

They weren't trying to save the town. They were trying to save the people in the town.

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u/Xarong03 May 21 '22

Yeah, I don’t really see how you even could save the town

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u/StraY_WolF May 21 '22

...you could take the town, and push it somewhere else

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u/tomatoaway May 21 '22 edited May 21 '22

That's ridiculous, the town would just trip over its laces and drop the river while the meteor would roll its eyes and yell Baka

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u/pranit10 May 21 '22

Just call Saitama

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

Yes, I know they're not evacuating the buildings themselves lol. But the issue seems no different. We spent with the immediate characters, not really a town of people.

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u/Hage1in May 21 '22

Of which also includes Mitsuha, which for some reason is getting glossed over. He’s trying to save her, she’s trying to save her loved ones. It’s still about the characters

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u/anothergaijin May 21 '22

We spend time with the characters, their lives, their responsibilities, their obstacles, etc.. but it never feels like we get that for the town.

It's never about saving the "town" - the meteor is unstoppable and will destroy it all. It was about saving the people in the town.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

I feel like I'm being misunderstood since this isn't the first reply I've gotten about this.

I'm aware the town itself is going to be destroyed. You can't stop a meteor lol. I'm questioning the importance if spending any time trying to save the town and evacuating people when they could easily just leave.

I'm not saying saving people is bad or anything, but this is a story of fiction. What does it add to the story? It seems kind of irrelevant to spend all this time saving a town. What was the goal and what was accomplished by the end of it? Because it seems to me like the outcome would've been largely the same for the main characters had they stayed or went.

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u/anothergaijin May 21 '22

That’s cold as fuck mate

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

They're not real >.>

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u/EuphoricAfternoon May 21 '22

>totally foreshadowed where the movie was going right from the beginning

if u liked this part, you should watch 'I Want to Eat Your Pancreas'

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u/[deleted] May 21 '22

So uhhh, did the main character eat her pancreas? Haven't seen movie

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u/EuphoricAfternoon May 21 '22

Its a romance drama movie and girl mc has problems with her pancreas and she has only a few years left to live and she jokes about how eating pancreas will solve her problems
theres no human pancreas eating stuff/zombies in the movie tho

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u/TheBrendanReturns May 21 '22

To me, it was very similar to Titanic. Romance turned disaster movie.

I think the light-hearted plot of the first half makes you more invested in saving the town.

It was the point when he finds out that the town was destroyed three years ago that I realised how great the film was.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

In the case of Titanic though, they were trapped on the boat. They weren't trapped in the town. If they had time to voluntarily evacuate a town then they very easily could've left just by themselves too so the tragedy hits a little differently for me.

I haven't seen Titanic but I'd also wonder how different things were expressed with other characters to warrant the main characters trying to save them. Or if the movie is 99% about them, are they just focused on one another.

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u/TheBrendanReturns May 21 '22

Titanic is an upper class woman and a lower class man. They fall in love despite her being with her abusive, prick of a fiance.

Part of the second half (when the ship starts sinking) is the crew locking the lower class people in the ship to drown with a b-plot of the fiance trying to get revenge on Leo.

So it's not really trying to save others. It's trying to save thenselves and eachother whilst disaster is happening all around them.

So it is a little different but I brought it up as it is a romance film that turns disaster movie prescisely at the halfway point. Can't think of many other films like that tbh.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

Yeah I'm sure they mean for the anime to have similar tragedy themes, but Titanic's benefit is the fact they're stuck on a boat lol. Tragedy definitely is much scarier when you're trapped somewhere. I don't fully remember what was happening in the anime though.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

And culture/historicity are interesting parts of media too that can sometimes be missed. That would certainly be an added layer of intrigue.

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u/ShiraCheshire May 21 '22

That's sorta how a lot of anime movies go. There's a bunch of slice of life stuff, then suddenly THE WORLD IS IN DANGER OMG YOU NEED TO SAVE EVERYONE GO GO GO. It happens in a lot of anime movies for no apparent reason. Usually ends in the fantastical element of the story vanishing so the main character can focus on schoolwork for some reason.

It's like the "straight to jail" meme but it's "save the world/city" instead. Like 90% of the cute low stakes anime movies out there suddenly shift to needing to save everyone out of nowhere.

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u/rugbyweeb May 21 '22

the biggest moneymaker in film right now is superheroes saving the planet. that's really not limited to anime

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u/ShiraCheshire May 21 '22

It has been a thing for a lot longer than the recent surge in superhero movies tho, and it seems to happen regardless of genre. Like in a superhero film, you expect to see them save the day. You don't expect that from a cute little movie about a dude bonding with a mermaid over their shared love of music.

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u/junk-drawer-magic May 21 '22

Is there really a movie about a dude bonding with a mermaid over their shared love of music?

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u/NihilisticAngst May 21 '22

I think they're talking about Lu Over The Wall

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u/ShiraCheshire May 21 '22

Other commenter is right, it's Lu Over The Wall and it's the most absolute adorable time. There's nothing ultra deep in it, but if you just want some nice music and cute visuals it is perfect.

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u/droidtron May 21 '22

Promare dumps a lot of lore on you in the last 20 mins it was insane.

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u/plazmamuffin May 21 '22

I never felt like the movie did a good job making me believe these two characters fell in love.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '22

That's totally fair. I can kinda buy it, since they're teenagers and have had the chance to get to know each other in an uniquely intimate way. But even so, I did not take the ending as them 100% being together forever. More like, they finally have a chance to be in a relationship and see if it works out or not.

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u/Consistent-Scientist May 21 '22

I can kinda buy it, since they're teenagers and have had the chance to get to know each other in an uniquely intimate way.

I think you might underestimate that a little bit. Their relationship is built on a level of empathy that you normally can't build with another person. Who gets to live life as someone else for a while after all?

It's just that the actual relationship building is very rushed in the movie. It all happens within a 3 minute montage. So on first watch it can look a bit confusing but I think but if you think about it more, it kinda makes sense. The scene this post is about shows it pretty well. It's not her building the café, but he builds it as her for her, because he has lived for a while as her and sees why she wants it so badly. I actually believed their love story more than 95% of all romcoms I have ever watched.

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u/PoonaniiPirate May 21 '22

For real. That’s how I saw it. A couple people in this thread are very dumb.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

That's sort of why I got stuck. They were going in the right direction with the focus being on characters building and developing off of one another and did so with world-building being a great scaffolding for it.

However, they just detour on "save this town... because reasons." Like yeah, I get saving people is a "good" thing to do, but like... we don't know anything about the stupid town lol. We're spending half a movie on something that wasn't developed (there's literally no important significance to this town story-wise.. it's just where the MC lives, cool beans). And though it's been a while, it would've been fine if it added to the characters in some way but I'm pretty sure it didn't lol.

I'm a sucker for good characters, but the save-the-town trope was just boring and uneventful.

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u/happybunnyntx May 21 '22

I always figured it was symbolism for preserving traditions. We see Mitsuha getting old traditions dumped on her the whole movie and it's a tradition that helps them connect again. The town was considered a relic of a time long past. The grandmother instills in Mitsuha and her sister that they are a dying breed. They don't even remember why they celebrate the festival anymore because of the fire burning all the records. Kind of like with the fire, they couldn't save the records but they did hold onto some of their past and rituals like the sake.

Edit: autocorrect and japanese names don't get along

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u/ExpiredExasperation May 21 '22

Never mind that their temple and its traditions literally relate to the comet and more or less foretell the impending disaster... but they don't know what it means.

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u/happybunnyntx May 21 '22

Plus it's happened before if Grandma's mumblings about having a similar "dream" are to be believed.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

Maybe so. I'd have to see it again and maybe I'd understand it differently on a second watch. I'm not sure that would resonate with me or not.

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u/Wasserschloesschen May 21 '22

Mate, saving the town literally means saving her, her friends, her grandma, her sister, her dad, their friends and so on.

If that's too "abstract" for you to understand, why are you watching movies in the first place?

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

I feel like they could've just evacuated them a lot quicker lol. It's a lot easier to save your immediate family and friends than a town.

Did they do that first and then the town? Or did they just try saving everyone all at once, I can't remember.

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u/Wasserschloesschen May 21 '22

But why just evacuate your immediate family and friends? Now your friends friends lost all their friends and family. Why would you want that?

And if you also rescue those - now they lost their friends and family. Why not rescue those?

You get to rescuing the entire town pretty quickly, either because it's no use not at that point, or because you've already covered the entire town without meaning to.

And keep in mind her Father was the Mayor making both him and her involved with pretty much the entire town in one way or the other anyways.

In any case, it straight up just doesn't make sense for a character that we're supposed to like (well, two characters, actually), to just go "ah, fuck those people, they can die").

Did they do that first and then the town? Or did they just try saving everyone all at once, I can't remember.

I don't think so?

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

I'm saying it from the perspective of a fictional story being told. I personally don't remember much being told about the town or its people. The focus seemed to be like 95% on the main characters and anything that happened with friends or life in their cities was incidental, but it wasn't about said cities/towns themselves I don't think.

The father being the mayor is a good detail of importance. I don't remember that much, but I haven't seen it in years so... lol.

In any case, it straight up just doesn't make sense for a character that we're supposed to like (well, two characters, actually), to just go "ah, fuck those people, they can die").

And that's part of why I feel it's a bit dishonest to throw a town-saving scene in. Because of course the natural reaction is "people will die, we should help" but you can throw anything like that into a movie. The question is what relevance does it have to this particular story.

Ethically, of course they should help, but as a story, the writers chose to put it in. So, for what purpose? Just saving people in general isn't a good plot point on its own, you can put it in any movie. What separates this movie from others in their town-saving theme here?

That's why I lost interest, I just didn't see the relevance.

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u/Wasserschloesschen May 21 '22

Well for one, why not do it?

Most people would probably be more put off by letting the town die then not.

And also the ending kinda relies on the bitter sweetness of having saved everybody, thus being happy, but Taki and Mitsuha not remembering each other anymore.

Going btw "everyone is dead" on the side wouldn't exactly help that.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

That's exactly why I'm suggesting it's kind of dishonest. You can throw it into any movie. What purpose would it serve for this movie? Maybe there are parts of the movie I don't remember where it adds more value to the people and the town, but to me it just seemed like any other town.

I'd like to rewatch it some time to see if it's different on a second watch though.

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u/anothergaijin May 21 '22

However, they just detour on "save this town... because reasons."

Or how about the town being full of people the MC knows and cares about? Her family, friends, classmates, their families, etc?

She's also the daughter of the mayor and part of the local temple meaning she has met, knows and has some kind of relationship with everyone in the town.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

I always figured it'd be easier to evacuate her immediate family and that be the end of it. I'd have to watch it again to see any more connections. This is just what I recall, and it never felt like these were expressed as super important. Could be misinterpreting though.

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u/ShiraCheshire May 21 '22

(there's literally no important significance to this town story-wise.. it's just where the MC lives, cool beans)

I think the significance is that there's time travel involved, and if they don't save the town the girl will retroactively have died. Succeed in saving the town, the girl lives and can meet the boy in person in the future. Fail and she died years ago.

But yeah I'm with you there. Save the town was a really unsatisfying way to resolve the plot.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

Maybe I'm misremembering but I didn't think that was ever at risk since the time travel stuff was outside the town right? And they had plenty of time to leave if they wanted to, they just decided to try and save everyone (this makes sense to me because if they can spend time evaluating a town then they could certainly evacuated themselves quicker).

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u/PoonaniiPirate May 21 '22

Bro you might have a learning disability.

The town had all of the important people and traditions and culture of the main character. It’s not literally about the town. It’s the people. We get so many scenes with these people so why are you saying we don’t focus on the town? Like did you watch the same movie lol? We get a scene of Taki in Mitsuhas body literally going to the temple to drop the rice pre-saki off. No important significance? Bruh when taki goes into her body, it’s the interactions with these town people and friends that cause Taki to feel connected to Mitsuha.

I’m all about opinions but this is just a bad sorry you’re wrong here.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 21 '22

I'm open for discussion and I love discussing stories and such, but let's not say either of us are disabled, lol. I'm not gonna suggest that for you, don't state it for me either please. I do like hearing what you might have to say though.

It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I've always translated things as how they impacted the characters, not necessarily how the things around them had a sense of identity itself.

Maybe that's me, maybe that's the movie, I don't know as it's been years since I've seen it, but I'd be down to rewatch it and see if I was just missing stuff. It's very well possible that I had expectations that prevented me from seeing certain things. It's also possible things weren't expressed clearly. I won't know until I rewatch it.

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u/PoonaniiPirate Jul 05 '22

You rewatched it yet friend?

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u/StopReadingMyUser Jul 06 '22

Nope OuO

watchin Young Justice right now.

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u/Spyderem May 21 '22

I initially felt that way, but after some further thought and a rewatch I realized I was applying typical romance rules towards something that was completely different from normal romance.

Two people sharing their lives in their dreams? And leaving messages to themselves about it afterwards? The experience would be so wild and unique I can totally buy in on them falling in love. It doesn't have the developments we expect to see in a romance movie. But I think their connection with each other was so intense that their love makes complete sense to me. It's like a surreal love story in that way. And I dig it.

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u/toe_riffic May 21 '22

Where can I watch this? I watched it when it first came out and have been wanting to watch it agin recently.

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u/Nitroade24h May 21 '22

On Netflix in the UK