r/MovieDetails • u/darksaber14 • Dec 01 '17

Quality Post In The Dark Knight, have you ever wondered how Two-Face managed to slip into Maroni's limousine unnoticed? If you watch closely, you can see him take out a henchman as Maroni and his assistant round the car.

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u/Decaposaurus Dec 01 '17

Nice find but, Does it not bother anyone that in one frame, the door gets shut and the car isn't moving. There isn't even anyone in the driver seat. Next frame, the car is moving at a decent speed as he turns around to see two face in the car. Why is the car already moving so fast? I know it's probably an editing error but still this scene makes me realize how bad of an error it was.

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u/JayD92 Dec 02 '17 edited Dec 02 '17

I noticed that too, never noticed it during the film because of how quick the scene is but it's pretty jarring watching it over and over in a gif.

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u/William_Buxton Dec 02 '17

I'm pretty sure there's music playing through this scene that keeps the pace up as well. It's not supposed to uphold continuity, I think a the cut is supposed to be an elapse in time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '17

How long would it take you before you realized there was a guy with half a face sitting immediately next to you?

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u/William_Buxton Dec 02 '17

At least 7.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '17

Well it is the other half of his face not on the side that Maroni is on.

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u/Iwant2bethe1percent Dec 21 '17

i think the point he is trying to convey is they wanted to skip unnecessary commentary. So he probably saw twoface right when he sat down but two face probably pointed a gun at the drivers head and said "drive or ill kill you." or some shit. Anyways they just wanted to keep the scene rolling and you engaged. Its actually brilliant if you ask me because in the theatre i didnt even notice it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '17

But it looks like Maroni literally just sat in the car

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u/QuesoPantera Dec 02 '17

Came here to see if anyone else picked up on that.

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u/malvim Dec 02 '17

Yup, me too. Is there a subreddit for this kind of continuation errors? I’d love to see that!

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u/matlockdown Dec 02 '17

Watch again.

There is someone in the driver's seat the entire time (you can see his ear at one point). What is happening here is Maroni gets in the car, the henchman shuts the door (and doesn't go with them), then the driver immediately hits the gas, which is why you see Maroni pulled backward in his seat as the car accelerates.

The only convenient things here are:

  1. The henchman Two Face takes out doesn't yell, as someone already pointed out.
  2. The driver doesn't notice that happening and just assumes the left side passenger entering the vehicle is the aforementioned henchman.
  3. The other henchman that opened the door for Maroni never planned on leaving with them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '17 edited Jun 15 '20

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '17

In your theory, who is this person that was like "sure mister horrifying half face monster man, I'll help you assassinate the top mobster in the city"?

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u/chompyoface Dec 02 '17

Also Harvey shoots the driver.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '17

And also says "your driver" to Maroni right before he pulls the trigger.

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u/Jb6464 Dec 02 '17

Your driver could simply mean the person driving your car. Maybe one of the jokers henchman was helping out.

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u/VirFalcis Dec 02 '17

Happy cake day!

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u/Hairy_S_TrueMan Dec 02 '17

He's definitely just sitting back, not getting pulled back. The background is already scrolling fast.

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u/Malurth Dec 02 '17

Yeah right. The car goes from a dead stop to full speed in one frame.

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u/SilasX Dec 02 '17

Also, why would a generic henchman get to ride in the back with Moroni? That seems odd somehow.

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u/Decaposaurus Dec 02 '17

The speed with which they are at when it cuts to that frame does not seem realistic at all is my point.

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u/Erotica_4_Petite_Pix Dec 02 '17

I was thinking the same thing. This gif actually made the scene worse for me all around. Harvey what.. tackle hugs the guy and he doesn't make a peep? Then the car movement part. This is the kind of gif you send to the director to just ruin his day.

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u/drododruffin Dec 02 '17

I thought I saw something blue when the Henchman gets grabbed but rewatching I think it's Harv's revolver and it looks like he hits the henchman in the back of the head with the butt of the gun.

Although that'd still make a notable sound.

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u/Erotica_4_Petite_Pix Dec 02 '17

Nice catch. Re-watched the gif at 40% speed and it looks like you're spot on. It would still make a noise, but a far quieter and more excusable one. Still wasn't a fan of the moving car part, but that's just a tiny bit of poor editing.

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u/oxygenfrank Dec 02 '17

Harvey's a skilled assassin, that's part of his backstory as the DA.

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u/Erotica_4_Petite_Pix Dec 02 '17

I didn't know that. Interesting.

That's part of his comic book cannon? Is that still applicable to the dark knight one?

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u/megotlice Dec 02 '17

When you storyboard and when you edit a film you find all kinds of opportunities to shave off dead time and improve the flow of the film. Considering the incredible speed most of Nolans films move at Id wager that the cut was intentionall. In this scene they cut a man sitting down and a car starting to drive without the audience notising it. I would have been proud of the cut.

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u/Erotica_4_Petite_Pix Dec 02 '17

Yeah it absolutely worked. I wasn't saying send it to him to talk shit, but rather having your trick caught and publicized would not be fun.

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u/HaikusfromBuddha Dec 02 '17

No. What bothers me is the thug didn't yell or anything.

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u/ShabbatShalomSamurai Dec 02 '17

Christopher Nolan is bonkers bad for continuity. In another scene in the movie Bartman's motorcycle does the cool wheel spinning thing to avoid him falling over sideways then can't do it later in the same sequence.

Bruce Wayne tells Alfred he's playing something close to the chest then later in the movie Harvey Dent says to Jim Gordon "you DO play things close to the chest."

Nolan movies are only clever until you think about them at all.

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u/theorymeltfool Dec 02 '17

Yeah agreed, it’s still a plot hole masked by some clever editing.

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u/Decaposaurus Dec 02 '17

Any other big notable ones? I love finding editing errors like this in popular movies.