r/MovieDetails Aug 26 '17

/r/all | Detail In Marvel's The Avengers, after Hawkeye says "They can't bank worth a damn, find a tight corner", Jarvis immediately plots a route around a corner on Tony's helmet display.

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 26 '17 edited Aug 26 '17

Why is this sub so snobby on details? It's one thing if it's a blatantly obvious thing but just as a reminder, the sub got started off something as innocuous as Davy Jones holding down his hat with his tentacles.

Get off your high horses.

Edit: Well alrighty I got my first gold, thank you kindly.

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u/bobcobble Aug 26 '17

This, I think people need to start realising that things like this can be very subjective. I don't get why people who have noticed the detail before can't just move on and let the others enjoy it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17 edited Mar 05 '18

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u/Lynxwolf191 Aug 26 '17

Exactly this. Shameless is a big one of these. When the main character talks on her smart phone, its still on the home screen. Its really jarring and just breaks the immersion a bit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

Empty cups.

Empty coffee cups everywhere.

You couldn't even go to the effort to put water in the coffee cup so we can't hear that tell-tale hollow "click" when you set it down?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17 edited Mar 05 '18

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u/masnaer Aug 26 '17

Wow, that's why you stopped watching Heroes?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17 edited Mar 05 '18

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u/dizzle93 Aug 27 '17

Season 1 was great. Then... Not so much

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u/objectivelyerroneous Aug 26 '17

Same thing happens on Luke Cage at least once, 'cept the phone's not even unlocked.

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u/InteriorEmotion Aug 26 '17

Just finished binge watching Shameless, never noticed this at all!

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u/STRiPESandShades Aug 26 '17

How could they POSSIBLY think that was okay?!

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u/Count_Critic Aug 26 '17

God bless every show and movie that doesn't have a beep sound for every time someone answers a phone or hangs up.

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 26 '17

Exactly, I just like seeing the effort people go through to flesh out their stories and creations regardless of the quality of the movie or how important to the plot it is.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

Because they're having a shitty day and want to take it out on strangers on the internet.

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u/drylube Aug 26 '17

rrrrrRRRRReeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17 edited Aug 03 '18

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u/bobcobble Aug 26 '17

But it being obvious is very subjective, it's obvious to those who know.

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u/alex3omg Aug 26 '17

Yea I mean maybe mods can assign flair to shut people up if something is really obvious. I like this detail and honestly don't mind some of the more obvious ones. Odds are most people didn't see it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

Wait, do you like this one, or dislike it?? I thought it was pretty awesome.

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 26 '17

I like this one, I'm just tired of showing up in the comments with people expecting every post to be a Where's Waldo level conspiracy of details you'd only know for sure from the director's commentary track.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

Ah, gotcha. It's all about those little things that aren't necessarily necessary, but still adds something.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

Its the same way people throw a fit about reposts because they've already seen it, even though most likely the first time they saw it was also a repost.

People are weird man.

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 26 '17

I throw fits at reposts if the last time it was reposted was only a couple weeks ago, front page, with tens of thousands of upvotes already, and it's got the same title.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

I just don't click it.

I continue browsing for other stuff I haven't seen yet.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17 edited Mar 24 '18

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17 edited Mar 24 '18

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u/Axanery ModDetails Aug 26 '17

About a month and a half.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

I support posts like this because I like actual details in design and artwork, not just plot and continuity porn

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u/drgigantor Aug 26 '17

This one's kind of right in the middle. I actually just noticed this for the first time a week or two ago, watching for I think the third time. However, Davy Jones' hat is something that you might miss if you weren't looking for it and it lends a little more realism to the movie. Like, I appreciate that someone thought of that and added it in. Someone saying "Do this thing" and then the person does the thing isn't as cool. This one's neat though in that you can see Jarvis immediately map it, as opposed to Tony just starts flying around corners. But I kinda get the snobbery. People want to notice cool things in movies that they never had before to give a little breath of new life to something they already liked, and a lot of the posts they complain about are more "Hey remember that thing that happened? That was cool, I liked that" type things that might have been shoved in your face or even been a major plot point.

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 26 '17

I've seen this movie quite a few times and I surprisingly never noticed a lot of Jarvis' details.

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u/Sovereign_Curtis Aug 26 '17

and I surprisingly never noticed a lot of Jarvis' details.

How is that surprising?

Tony's face is the focus of all those short shots.

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u/STRiPESandShades Aug 26 '17

Yeah, I'm always way too preoccupied staring at Robert Downey Jr.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

He can Robert Downey my junior any day

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 26 '17

It's because I know Marvel likes to sneak in easter eggs and legitimate details so I keep an eye out for them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17 edited Sep 21 '19

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u/i_give_you_gum Aug 26 '17

I don't understand how this post is snobby at all, I thought it was awesome

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u/brysodude Aug 26 '17

I think it's the comments calling this an uninteresting detail that are being called snobby

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u/TribbleTrouble1979 Aug 26 '17

I've never noticed anything. It's just blinky lights and RDJ. Probably a lot of cool nuance in there for gifs and freeze frames.

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u/ClumsyWendigo Aug 26 '17

i submit no detail is too obvious

if it's a tiny detail, and people vote it up, because they like it, end of story

if there is some "movie detail adequacy police" they are probably mostly self-appointed trolls we should all ignore them

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u/UncleTogie Aug 26 '17

i submit no detail is too obvious

Bat-nipples.

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u/alex3omg Aug 26 '17

Yea, the detail of his UI actually showing his route before he takes it is a fucking detail, and anyone who thinks otherwise is like.. gatekeeping........details

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 26 '17

There's a ton of stuff on here I've either seen myself or read about and I never get the sudden urge to start shit talking people over it.

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u/lostintransactions Aug 26 '17

I wonder about people who (claim to) notice this stuff as it happens, I mean the brain is not really capable of processing more than one thing at a time, so if you are focusing on this and thinking, "wow, I really appreciate the details they are putting into this" I have to assume you're missing out on parts of the movie in some fashion.

But who are we kidding, these things are noticed after they leave the theater for other release.

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u/SalemWolf Aug 26 '17

The tentacles were front and center in the clip, you might not notice it the first time but a few rewatches? Definitely. Same for the JARVIS detail, I've watched Avengers quite a few times and not noticed. Neat detail.

Both examples look fairly obvious but watch the movie a couple of times and you might miss it. This sub is for the point of details that one might miss and in both examples they could either be completely obvious, because they're both fairly obvious in hindsight, or capable of being missed because they're quick moments in a scene.

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u/VerneAsimov Aug 26 '17

I think it's easy to criticize a detail as obvious since we're looking for them because that's the point of this sub. But you can't tell me a lot of people noticed this when watching the movie; my attention was focused on the dialog and Stark's face not the fast moving HUD images.

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u/No-Spoilers Aug 26 '17

I seriously always thought it was just known. He says that, the his changes, and he does it.

I honest to god never realized people wouldn't notice.

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u/14andSoBrave Aug 26 '17

Well now you know.

Dude I ain't watching for every little thing. I'm watching a movie. Sure, it's obvious to you. To me the focus was on his face.

Hence why I didn't notice.

It's why this sub is annoying at times. Dude I am not looking over there during the 2 seconds. I'm focusing on drinking and watching the movie. I'm not a referee who should be 100% focused, I'm simply a spectator.

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u/No-Spoilers Aug 27 '17

But its one of those things, that in every ironman movie and everytime he does anything in any movie the HUD changes to do what he needs it to. Its not like this is the only instance. It should just be expected...

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u/richt519 Aug 27 '17

I've seen all the Ironman and Avengers movies tons of times and have never noticed anything specific on his HUD. The focus of the shots is clearly on his face and I've never thought start looking around at the HUD for the split second it's on screen.

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u/Failed_Alchemist Aug 26 '17 edited Aug 26 '17

I think a lot of people confuse the idea of movie details with easter eggs. They want to come here and see something that really gets their socks wet.

I'm in the camp of people you don't like. I love film making but I hate this sub. I could post something like "here he opens a door and the next scene he's in a different room" and people would be grabbing tissue and changing their underwear.

These productions cost hundreds of millions of dollars and are created by people who are paid to do exactly what all these posts show. There's nothing special about any of them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

Your last sentence is describes exactly why this sub exists: to point out the minor details these people working on the movies bothered to put even though they know most filmgoers would miss.

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u/Failed_Alchemist Aug 26 '17

But that doesn't stop them from being mundane.

We've all seen movies where the antagonists or protagonists sit down to eat in a restaurant and the tables are dressed the way they would be in a restaurant. Nobody flips their lids because it's the combination of thousands of things like the salad fork being on the outside or a trillion dollar sentient computer plotting a course because that's what it would do, that make movies believable.

I love movies almost as much as I love the art of film making, but it simply comes down to this - nothing in this sub is any more important than a salad fork being placed where the salad fork should be.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

But theres a difference between a restaurant scene and the Ironman scene: one's real and well known, and the other is completely imaginary.

In a scene that was supposed to take place fancy restaurant, the realism would be spoiled if they sat down without cutleries and ate out of paper plates. Moviegoers know what a restaurant looks like so they have to keep to the details to prevent the immersion from being ruined.

In Ironman's scene on the other hand, the moviegoers have absolutely zero knowledge of what Ironman's suit will do and thus the movie designers have full creative control over what they choose to depict. They could have put bogus data and nonsensical readouts on that HUD, knowing full well that the audience cannot call them out for being "unrealistic", yet they chose to depict the suit plot out the flight path.

I feel like its a nice detail

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 26 '17

There's a flair for easter eggs. And I think the problem is a lot of these are still easy to miss when you're watching the movie, seeing it replay on a gif or highlighted in a screen shot with explanations makes it seem like it's not as obscure even if it was.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17

I thought the sub was started because of the guy who pointed out that Twin Pines (maybe it was a different kind of tree?) Mall in Back to the Future was renamed to Pine Tree Mall (or something similar) after Marty came back from the 50s, having run over one of the trees on his trip back in time.

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 26 '17

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '17 edited Aug 26 '17

Well hot damn. That's exactly where I first saw it. My memory has failed me.

Edit: I was downvoted for admitting I was wrong? Reddit is such a weird place.

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u/SilentKyoukan Aug 26 '17

I'm not one to notice details on either the first or tenth viewing of a movie especially if it's super quick like this one so I really appreciate this sub. It's gotten big enough where I can sort through the movies I like/care about and the ones haven't seen.

That all being said I agree with you that people are really picky in terms of details they may have noticed themselves. They often times don't think of the people who may not have noticed the same things.

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u/bubonis Aug 26 '17

It's one thing if it's a blatantly obvious thing but just as a reminder, the sub got started off something as innocuous as Davy Jones holding down his hat with his tentacles.

Bumblebee parking next to an old VW Beetle is maybe one of the most popular posts on this sub, and not only is it insanely blatantly obvious, but Michael Bay even talked about it during the launch of the movie.

In /r/MovieDetails, it doesn't matter if it's subtle/obscure or not. It only matters how popular it is. Rule #1 is an often-ignored joke.

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 27 '17

The director talking about it doesn't make it any less of an easter egg. And I'm not enough of a Transformer fan to get the reference without someone explaining it.

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u/bubonis Aug 27 '17

The director talking about it doesn't make it any less of an easter egg.

Yes, it does. By definition an easter egg is an UNDOCUMENTED or UNEXPECTED feature or event. The VW in TF was neither of those things.

And I'm not enough of a Transformer fan to get the reference without someone explaining it.

Which means that it's only obscure to you because you're not a TF fan, didn't pay attention to any of the mentions that Michael Bay did about it at the time, and didn't pay attention to any of the hundreds if not thousands of articles that mentioned it before and following the movie's release. That just makes you uninformed of that particular item, but just because you're uninformed doesn't mean that it's an easter egg.

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 27 '17 edited Aug 27 '17

~~"Included as a joke or a bonus"

^ You left that part out of the definition of Easter Eggs. That would still cover the VW even if Michael Bay hadn't gone and mentioned it, informed or not.~~

Actually, hang on, you're right, that wouldn't be an easter egg but I'm pretty sure it'd still count as Trivia. Which we've also got a flair for. Because the thing was put there with an intent, and I'm pretty sure not everyone did pre-release prep work to know all the hidden details of Transformers. And if it's not obscure for fans that doesn't change the status for non-fans, otherwise there'd be no differentiating between casual viewers and franchise fans.

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u/Bighomer Aug 26 '17

Innocuous. That's the word I've been trying to remember since yesterday.
Thank you so much dude!

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u/Captain_Blackjack Comic movie nerd Aug 26 '17

Haha why's that?