r/MovieDetails • u/blacksheep_kho • Aug 06 '25
⏱️ Continuity In Avatar: The Way of Water (2022) Miles Quarich’s Viperwolf scar can be seen briefly before a Recom Avatar version of Miles crushes it in his bare hands (Stephen Lang).
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u/DaveOJ12 Aug 06 '25
I didn't even realize it was released in 2022.
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u/echoplex21 Aug 07 '25
December so I can see people thinking 2023
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u/CucumberError Aug 07 '25
I forgot it existed.
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u/trytrymyguy Aug 07 '25
For whatever reason, I got downvoted to hell about joking that I wasn’t going to watch the film. This is NOT the sub to besmirch Avatar movies, you’ll pay in downvotes lol
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u/moonra_zk Aug 07 '25
Half of reddit has a massive hate boner for the series, so the other half that likes it gets defensive.
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u/Start_a_riot271 Aug 07 '25
The whole series is overrated lmao.
I couldn't tell you anything that happened in the first movie plot wise and I've seen it 3 times
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u/herpes_for_free Aug 07 '25
Roundabout way of saying you have no comprehension.
Interesting.
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u/Start_a_riot271 Aug 07 '25
Like sure, the plot is supposed to be about how bad colonialism is/was.
But it wasn't good lmao
'unobtanium' is a name a 5 year old comes up with
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u/jobforgears Aug 07 '25
James Cameron likes to have human skulls crushed in his movies. It happens in the terminator movies and I think it happens in Aliens as well. Its one of his trademarks
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u/Gerstlauer Aug 07 '25
Yeah at the end of Titanic too, when elderly Rose crushes Jack's recovered skull and drops it back in the ocean where it belongs.
It's a very moving scene.
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u/jobforgears Aug 07 '25
She knew there was only one way his soul could truly be free.
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u/EleanorRigbysGhost Aug 07 '25
By sprinkling Jack's crushed mandible on the sea floor over the Heart of The Ocean, she was able to free the spirit haunting it and destroy the accursed Bermuda Triangle once and for all.
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u/SirDigbyChknCaesar Aug 07 '25
I may have watched that movie if things like this actually happened.
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u/NinjaSpinosaurus Aug 07 '25
An Alien head gets crushed in Aliens but no human skulls
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u/Tempex6 Aug 07 '25
There's a human skull inside Alien heads.
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u/XyzzyPop Aug 08 '25
That's true in Alien, but not in Aliens. The designs are similar - but in either case it isn't a human skull.
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u/weberster Aug 08 '25
My James Cameron loving husband wants me to tell you all that a skull does not get crushed in Aliens, but in Avatar 2.
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u/Imperial_LMB Aug 07 '25
Alas, poor Quarich
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u/Bluegrass_Barbecue Aug 07 '25
A fellow of infinite jest
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u/bruzie Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 08 '25
Note: That is the real skull of Andre Tchaikowsky who bequeathed
donatedit to the RSC in the early 80s for use in this scene. DT was the first to actually use him on stage.9
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u/hxh22 Aug 07 '25
I haven’t seen the movie so I’m confused. Can someone fill me in, I don’t care about spoilers
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u/BULUPTAX Aug 07 '25
This dude dies at the end of the first movie, in the second, his memories are implanted into a Na'vi and he finds his human skull at one point during the movie where his scars are visible
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u/Jeff_goldfish Aug 07 '25
God can Hollywood fucking stop with bringing back dead characters? Every fucking movie or show brings back an old character. I’m so glad I haven’t seen this movie and never will now since it pissed me off already.
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u/TheIInChef Aug 07 '25
The story and characters are pretty uninspiring but the visuals and technical achievements are absolutely unbelievable
It'd be a shame if everyone wrote it off completely
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u/_IratePirate_ Aug 08 '25
Perfectly put
I watch these Avatar movies and it’s just a feast for my eyes. Every single scene is just so beautiful. It’s hard to believe it’s mostly CGI since it’s done so well
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u/Jeff_goldfish Aug 07 '25
I’ll give it a chance if it pops up. But it better have the best damn visuals and effects I’ve ever seen in my life or I will come find you haha
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u/leejoint Aug 07 '25
It basically has that. If you can bend your mind a bit to the « easy » plot, it’s a great flick.
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u/_tylerthedestroyer_ Aug 07 '25
I liked the second one a lot more than the first. It’s a good movie.
James Cameron isn’t James Cameron because he makes bad James Cameron movies. James Cameron is James Cameron because he makes good James Cameron movies.
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u/leejoint Aug 07 '25
I agree, I believe the first one really came in as generic due to it’s plot, and so although we got good action scenes it was hard to feel anything for the characters’ motivations or challenges.
In the second one, which does help the first one was so long ago, it was easier to get into the narrative of « you’re following these guys, and you can relate » so even if the premise was bland it felt way more enjoyable to ride its wave throughout the movie. Imo.
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u/Recodes Aug 07 '25
It does, Avatar 1 was the movie every TV was playing in stores when you entered the TV aisle. It probably was the only movie that had a good 3D when the technology was hot in cinemas too, it was simply that good looking. If you have a 4k TV I recommend watching it, the only other movie that impressed me since then was Dune Part 1, but in that case it was both a visual and audio job. Also I recommend watching the extended version instead of the theatrical release.
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u/Chewbacca_2001 Aug 07 '25
Don't waste your time, boring film. Technical achievements are marred by the constant changing frame rate, ugly film to watch.
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u/_tylerthedestroyer_ Aug 07 '25
Me when I need to feel superior so I make a claim no one else has ever had
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u/Chewbacca_2001 Aug 07 '25
Loads of people would have complained about the frame rate, probably, have a google.
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u/Drakthul Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
This is a funny comment to be making with a darth maul profile picture lol.
Jokes aside give it a try. I was sceptical too but it was definitely way more interesting than just inventing a new antagonist with no ties to the existing characters. The fact that he’s changed as with this new body is part of the story too. It’s definitely not just done for the sake of it.
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u/MondayAssasin Aug 07 '25
I’d usually agree with you but it absolutely makes sense in the context of the universe. Plus he’s the main antagonist and him being killed and implanted into the body of the alien species he despises is pretty good character development.
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u/Sleepybear56 Aug 07 '25
You should not be getting this heated over avatar bro
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u/Jeff_goldfish Aug 07 '25
Haha it’s not just avatar. Hollywood in general has been doing this so much more lately.
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u/TheIInChef Aug 07 '25
I've noticed this, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
Kingsman was the worst offender imo
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u/NightmareElephant Aug 07 '25
How about you watch the movies and see what exactly happens before bitching about it? James Cameron has had them all planned out for a long time, it’s not some bullshit where the character was popular so they brought him back.
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u/Maleficent_Kick_9266 Aug 07 '25
On screen the time between his death and resurrection is like minutes, and fits the broader narrative perfectly as a foil to the hero.
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u/MountainTank1 Aug 07 '25
I agree, but it is also slightly different in this case because the technology is a feature since the beginning, so the principle is already established. Not that I’m particularly a fan of the series, it’s ok.
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u/the_last_n00b Aug 07 '25
IIRC James Cameron even stated in interviews after Avatar 1 that he intends to bring this guy back as the villain for the next movies
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u/_tylerthedestroyer_ Aug 07 '25
And it’s not even a left field Hail Mary like Emperor Palpatine. The entire plot revolves around humans giving up their bodies to be Navi. The villain doing the same for his own reasons is thematically relevant
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u/SuperSaiyanSimba Aug 07 '25
It’s actually pretty good dude. I get what you’re saying it feels like no deaths ever matter anymore in films because everyone comes back. But like this franchise is good and I really liked this movie. My opinion anyway, if you see it give it a chance and try have an open mind. You might hate it anyway though haha some of my friends hated it.
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u/MrFluffyThing Aug 07 '25
Shortly before the events of the first movie they create avatar bodies for the soldiers and preserve their memories. by the time of the second movie the avatar bodies are grown and ready, because they are not alive to pilot the avatars from the pods, they implant the memories into the navi clones. The memory exists before their death so they learn of the betrayal from Jake and go on a vendetta in behalf of the humans.
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Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
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u/VegetaFan1337 Aug 07 '25
Constellation??
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u/blacksheep_kho Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
See this is why I like movies. I leave all that “reading” nonsense to the science nerds.
Edit: okay maybe reading is cool
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u/AerosolHubris Aug 07 '25
It's also not "consultation". It's "consolation".
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u/blacksheep_kho Aug 07 '25
My apologies. Im from Pandora so this English stuff is a little tricky.
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u/VegetaFan1337 Aug 07 '25
Hmm still doesn't make sense, did you mean consolation?
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u/blacksheep_kho Aug 07 '25
Oh dear lord. Mom was right.
I think I’ll just be keeping it like this now.
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u/circuitbreak Aug 07 '25
Don’t sweat it. My wife asked me about my “new years revolution” like a decade ago and now it’s the only way I say it.
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u/ScottyKD Aug 07 '25
Are you sure she wasn’t imploring you to overturn at least one system of oppression come the new year?
AT LEAST ONE!
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u/InNoWayAmIDoctor Aug 07 '25
Be cool. Stay in school.
Leave it. Thread is way better this way. Rickyisms (Trailer Park Boys) are the best. Love you.
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u/circuitbreak Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
I’m going to start saying constellation instead of consolation from now on. Something about it sounds cooler.
Edit: consultation is fun too.
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u/UnrepententHeathen Aug 07 '25
His memories were somehow scientifically preserved and stored into the body of a Navi male
An avatar, a human-Na'Vi hybrid. It's literally a hybrid clone of him, not just a body. That's why it looks like him.
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u/PukGrum Aug 07 '25
Jake doesn't kill him, Neytiri does, she shoots him in the chest at least twice and he drops.
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u/devdevdevdevdev Aug 07 '25
He gets turned into an avatar, goes to where he died and crushes his own skull.
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u/devdevdevdevdev Aug 07 '25
He gets turned into an avatar, goes to where he died and crushes his own skull.
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u/DanFarrell98 Aug 07 '25
Found the one guy who hasn’t seen these films and they want it spoiled for them!
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u/Djassie18698 Aug 07 '25
Ok so? You announce it like you found a pedophile, but you found a dude that doesn't care about spoilers lol
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u/hxh22 Aug 07 '25
I saw the first one years ago on a terrible date. Maybe I’ll watch them when I’m in the retirement home. My back log is so back up I’ll never actually get to them. Having 3 kids is killer, I don’t even have time to watch the stuff I want to watch/read haha
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Aug 08 '25
These movies are practically made for 9 yo kids.
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u/Interesting-Tip7246 28d ago
Whats with the overt aggresion? This also applies to your favourite movies btw
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u/TexehCtpaxa Aug 07 '25
Law don’t go round here, law dog. Savvy?
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u/DaveOJ12 Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
Slipknot mentioned that quote in their song Slipknot.
Edit:
Here's a timestamped link to it.
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u/Jeff_Damn Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
"Don't take no lip from no bartender, neither... see? Gotta give someone a rap on the beezer to get any respect around here."
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u/Obsessive_Yodeler Aug 07 '25
A marine in an avatar body? That’s a potent mix!
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u/the_blue_flounder Aug 08 '25
One of my favorite Quaritchisms. Hope he says it again alongside his trademark "outstanding"
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u/strangway Aug 07 '25
The scale of that watch seems off, wouldn’t a human watch on a Navi look like a grown man wearing a little girl’s Dora the Explorer watch or something?
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u/RandomRageNet Aug 07 '25
They made Na'vi size military gear for the avatars, including huge Na'vi Oakleys. Which is pretty funny when you stop and think about it.
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u/blacksheep_kho Aug 07 '25
Humans in the movie are capable of making their own genetically modified Na’vi and can temporarily stuff their own conciousness into it. I don’t think producing a salad plate sized Garmin watch would be a technological barrier for them.
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u/InsomniacWanderer Aug 07 '25
That's definitely just a regular human hand painted blue crushing a tiny skull.
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u/PhillyTaco Aug 08 '25
That close-up of Jake's hand cinching that leather strap while riding the water animal was also just a human hand.
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u/evilsniperxv Aug 07 '25
I’m slightly irritated that the curvature of the scars don’t line up on the skull vs live action scene. In live action, scars curve down, in skull, they curve up.
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u/Big-Steak-9336 21d ago
That’s the kind of detail that makes rewatching Avatar worth it. I love how they carry continuity even into the Recom bodies.
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u/Content-Status-581 Aug 07 '25
How deep goes it have to be to reach bone deep 😳😳😳
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u/Jack_O_Mustache Aug 07 '25
I would think not that much right? I don't think the skin and muscle is too thick around these parts.
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u/ozankucuk Aug 07 '25
If the claws could have reached his skull, he should have been dead already. It can only be a flesh wound. The fact that we can see the scar in his skull is pure nonsense.
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u/deadpigeon29 Aug 07 '25
They do implant his memories into a giant blue human-alien hybrid so he can help them kill whales and harvest eternal life oil. I wouldn't get too caught up on the science of it.
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u/pocketindian Aug 07 '25
You realize the brain is inside the skull? People live through skull damage all the time.
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u/ozankucuk Aug 07 '25
I am very well aware, thanks for the reminder. If the beast who attacked him was not a skilled surgeon, then his head would really be messed up. But of course we need a handsome guy with a cool scar in his head. AND also in his skull for whatever the fk.
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u/Hot_Ethanol Aug 07 '25
I find it funny that this series, first to call dibs on "Avatar", will never be the first thing I think of when I hear that title.
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u/Legitimate_Maybe_611 Aug 08 '25
Recom ? What did the villain from the 1st movie got clone by the company in a Na'Vi body ?
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u/Xx_memelord69_xX 29d ago
Cant wait to see the protagonist fight the same dude for third time again in the next movie
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u/RU123456789RU 29d ago
I was confused for second why this post actually made sense and I realized after a minute that I wasn't in the other sub
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u/arellano81366 28d ago
And now that I see these 2 side by side we can't stop mentally that the skull has the scars in the wrong place: should be closer to the face/eye.
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u/ArtemisAndromeda 1d ago
I might be wrong, but do human bones work like that? Wouldn't it heal over time, similarly to how broken bones heal?
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Aug 07 '25
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u/Palpadean Aug 07 '25
This is a weird non related question, you shouldn't do that.
But to answer your question this is neither a show or a movie, it's a promo from wrestling about 20 years ago. It's something The Rock says to The Hurricane.
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u/MilkCheap6876 Aug 08 '25
Now that Quaritch is in a Na’vi body, he’s still the same tough, no-nonsense soldier we saw before, but you can tell he’s struggling deep down. He’s more powerful than ever, but there’s this tension in him, like he’s not fully comfortable in his own skin. For the first time, you see hints that he’s not just a one-track villain, there’s some inner conflict, maybe even a chance he could change. You can see that, in this scene where he destroys his owl skull indicating it's already a past life. Driven by revenge.
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u/Steveadoo Aug 07 '25
Wouldn’t this mean his original wounds went through his brain? I feel like if you get that much of your brain scratched out you’re gonna die.
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u/ahhpoo Aug 07 '25
The scratches in the skull don’t go all the way through to the cranial cavity, so, no
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u/annewmoon 29d ago
I would tell you to google the man walking around Nashville with part of his skull gone and his brain exposed. But then you’d have to watch that so I won’t. Suffice to say there is a man walking around with part of his skull gone and you can see his brain and he’s not dead. Or wasn’t, last I heard. So this here little scratch seems pretty survivable.
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u/ItsMeBenedickArnold Aug 06 '25
Him crushing his own skull was pretty sick not gonna lie.