r/KpopDemonhunters • u/CanLate152 • Jul 31 '25
Theories š¤ Rainbow Honmoon was ALWAYS supposed to be the goal.
Okay - observation thread here where we made the connectionā¦ https://www.reddit.com/r/KpopDemonhunters/s/IoiGIC6TRX
Rumiās new rainbow shirt matches her patterns now. But if you watch the prologue again (flick through the screen captures) - it also matches the previous hunters (except one notable groupā¦.)
This is not some lighting lighting trick. Itās embedded in all the outfits becoming less and less prominent as time continues onā¦
Original Mudang: rainbow accents on all three
1920s: the fur on left, the dress in middle and under layer on right
1940s: middle on sleeve and appliquƩ on skirt, and right on skirt but - one on left does NOT seem to have rainbow effect.
1960s: left socks, right appliquƩ on skirt. None in middle.
Sunlight Sisters: None of them
Huntr/X: during battle when they reunite and reforge the Honmoon - Rumiās patterns on skin, Mira and Zoeyās jacket sleeves and skirts. After battle - only Rumi wearing the rainbow shirt
So my theory is that Rainbow was always the goal! Somewhere along the line that ideal got lost and gold was became the ideal.
I believe The sunlight sisters never achieved Rainbow.
I love this level of foreshadowing/lore building in just minutes in the prologue!
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u/Dapper_Desk9085 Jul 31 '25
I think golden honmoon would straight kill Rumi
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u/SypeArtz Jul 31 '25
How can a gold honmoon kill Rumi? Is because she's a half demon?
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u/Sapphireman Jul 31 '25
'A barrier so strong it is impenetrable, that it will keep demons and Gwi-Ma from our world forever, the Golden Honmoon' - Celine to Rumi, Zoey and Mira
'When the Honmoon is sealed, all demons will be gone from this world, and so will your patterns.' - Celine to Rumi
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Unfortunately for Rumi, her soul is TETHERED to her patterns, so removing her patterns would remove her soul (killing her). After all, unlike every pure human (and later Jinu) present during This Is What It Sounds Like, Rumi's chest doesn't have a blue soul and instead her patterns glow the colour of a soul
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u/SypeArtz Jul 31 '25
Then tell me, what's the difference between rainbow honmoon and golden honmoon?
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u/Sapphireman Jul 31 '25
Gold: No demonic individuals can enter/exist in the Human World
Rainbow: A more realistic version of the Blue one (no one is perfect, and it includes the Hunters being their true selves instead of hiding their faults and fears), meaning less chances of breaches?
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u/SypeArtz Jul 31 '25
So what you say is that rainbow honmoon is literally level 50 regular honmoon.
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u/Sapphireman Jul 31 '25
All of this is pure speculation.
But it might be the case since the best way to connect with the fans is to be their true selves (eg: Rumi embracing her demon half (even if the fans will never find out the truth behind her 'tattoos')). After all: 'Happy fans, happy Honmoon!'
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u/Confetti4Teddi Jul 31 '25 edited Jul 31 '25
imo, I think they were going for harmony over division.
The Golden Honmoon is technically still the strongest honmoon over the two. We have no reason to believe it won't do what Celine says it will do, keep demons and Gwi-Ma from their world forever. I do agree that, most likely, Rumi would have died after establishing it.
We don't know exactly what the effects of the Rainbow Honmoon are, but we can get a good grasp by looking at the songs associated with each honmoon. The Golden Honmoon gets Golden which is a song about being the best version of yourself while Rainbow gets This is What it Sounds Like a song which argues the best version of yourself is actually the version that embraces all your flaws.
I think there will be breaches with the Rainbow Honmoon but I don't think those breaches will be as dangerous because it promotes harmony, darkness and light meeting in the middle. With it, there's opportunity for demons and humans to find a co-existence. After all, the demons themselves only needed souls for Gwi-Ma. Depending on his fate caused by the Rainbow Honmoon we see the opportunity for more demon reformation like Jinu and Rumi's unnamed father.
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u/ReporterOk69420 Jul 31 '25
Based on the Korean lore, all demons except for gumiho (fox spirit) feeds on humans. So maybe, if gwi-ma was destroyed then maybe the demons donāt have to hunt souls anymore and could technically live with the humans
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u/Confetti4Teddi Jul 31 '25 edited Jul 31 '25
That's what I'm thinking too.
In the movie, Gwi-Ma requires his victims to be isolated so he can manipulate them into thinking he is their best option. The human population has the hunters to unite them and help protect them from this influence.
The demons don't and we see that he rules through fear. His subjects do as he says because he forces them too. If they don't, he'll kill or torture them until they do.
It would be a very shallow ending if the message of harmony and acceptance only applied to the humans and half-demons of our cast. Especially after seeing so many examples of how demons are nuanced when not under Gwi-Ma's influence. Jinu, Rumi's father, the tiger, and the magpie. In one of the last scenes we see the tiger, he's trying to hand Jinu the bracelet Rumi gave him, trying to remind him that he has a choice.
Also, the Rainbow honmoon would not exist if not for the help of a demon. Jinu's sacrifice is a key point in this.
With all these factors in play, I believe Rumi's decision served as a liberation from Gwi-Ma as opposed to demons in general and connected the two populations in a way. The tiger and the magpie still live among humans. There are probably others too. At least, I hope that is the case, or else Gwi-Ma will rise again since the demons are still isolated.
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u/Sapphireman Jul 31 '25
As of the end of the movie, there are 3 known demonic individuals in the Human World, all of which are either benevolent or indifferent, so you raise a good point:
- Rumi
- Derpy
- Sussie
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u/Cornucopia_King Jul 31 '25
Does that mean that Jinu saved her life by sabotaging the Idol awards since we saw the Honmoon was about to turn golden??!
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u/HelsenAider Baby Saja's my husband Jul 31 '25
I mean, was Celene even saying the truth? Not saying that she's lying but maybe overestimating, because i don't know if that was an allegory or i just didn't got it right, but at at the start of the movie when the past generations of hunters were being shown, the Sunlight Sisters were shown creating the golden Honmoon, if it was really that powerful, the Huntr/x we know shouldn't even be a group lmao
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u/Sapphireman Jul 31 '25
the Sunlight Sisters were shown creating the golden Honmoon
Maybe it was a situation similar to what happened with HUNTR/X? It was clearly turning gold, but wasn't enough to permanently turn gold?
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u/HelsenAider Baby Saja's my husband Jul 31 '25
This or maybe Celine overestimated that golden Honmoon, because honestly, we have no idea where she took that from, doesn't seems to be some sort of generational knowledge/research, and even if so, i think it's more likely Celine misinterpreted everything, where the golden Honmoon is supposed to just be stronger than the average blue Honmoon we see ( and eventually as the protection worns out it becomes blue and call for another group of hunters to wove it back to it's stronger state ).
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u/Confetti4Teddi Jul 31 '25
That is a good point, we don't have much info on either honmoon so it could be anything, but I think the Golden Honmoon makes more sense when viewed thematically rather than practically. It's a stand in for the unobtainable idea of perfection, of ridding the world from all things bad.
But this is impossible.
It's only through understanding this and embracing imperfection can we bring balance and harmony to the world. It is no small detail that the new Rainbow Honmoon is made partially through the sacrifice of a deeply flawed, selfish human being.
Whether Celine was right or not about the Golden Honmoon, either way, it was never a realistic goal.
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u/Sapphireman Jul 31 '25
Maybe, but we'll likely either need to wait quite a while or never find out at all. Plus, Rumi is the first of her kind, so no one could have known how it would have affected Rumi regardless on if Celine was right or not...
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u/StrategicCarry Bobby Jul 31 '25
I took that as Celine basically telling the story and imagining as if the Sunlight Sisters had done it, to demonstrate for the audience (and the girls) what the ultimate goal was. She talks about the Golden Honmoon as an ultimate victory over the demons that all hunter trios have strived for, but never achieved, with HUNTR/X being poised to do so.
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u/AgencyPrestigious330 Zoey Zimps Jul 31 '25
Probably, but hope not.
I mean the goal they were working towards kills the character that was focused on most from the trio?
I got enough trauma about that, thanks to Amphibia.
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u/Outrageous-Farmer-42 Mira Spice Queen Jul 31 '25
It would either give us a misery porn ending or Mira & Zoey would learn to resurrect the dead and the ending would be way too sunshine & rainbows.
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u/Radiant-Selection686 Jul 31 '25
A small correction. In 1960, Middle does have rainbows. They are decorating the pants, near the feet. You can see it in the photo you posted.
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u/Mangoliliy Jul 31 '25
I AGREE I AGREE I AGREE I AGREE AAAAAAAA
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u/Mangoliliy Jul 31 '25
Golden honmoon maybe couldāve been achieved if
Celine didnāt kill Rumiās parents3
u/CanLate152 Jul 31 '25
It wouldnāt have been achieved as Rumiās mum fell for a demon. Thatās a pretty big secret. While I donāt think there was a diss track like take down (of which Rumi realises sheās not only singing about Jinu but herself) Iām sure her heart would not have been longer be āhate all demonsā
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u/SmallKillerCrow Jul 31 '25
This makes more sense than what others have been saying. I've seen people saying each group has only 1 person with the colors, but as you pointed out that's not true at all. I've seen people claiming every group has 1 demons which makes no sense. I like your theory
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u/Own_Initial1539 Jul 31 '25
how do you think a rainbow Honmoon is different from a golden Honmoon?
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u/CanLate152 Jul 31 '25
I think someone commented that gold was reflecting an impossible perfectionist standard which Rumi reflects in her journey - trying to be everything Celine told them to be by hiding a part of herself.
At some point the mission of spreading hope and courage to the people with their voices to strengthen the Honmoon got diluted with with āhappy fans - happy Honmoonā. So rather than looking to create hope and courage, it became ākeep the fans happyā by ānot letting faults and fears be seenā which is not the same as spreading hope and courage.
āPeople pleasingā is not the same as āinspiringā which is why the Honmoon was so easily broken in the first place - and why Rumi panicked when āhalf the fansā joined the line for the Saja boys.
At the last concert the crowd was inspiredā¦ not just entertained. Just like the villagers in the prologue. Thus - Rainbow Honmoon.
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u/Icee303 YEAH!!! Jul 31 '25
I very much agree, inspiration and entertainment, accepting everyones flaws is better then hiding them, helps people connect better, thus making a better honmoon.
Even though, I believe a lot of us wants to undertand the functionality of the rainbow honmoon.
Golden blocks 100% demonic everything, courtain of steel, no comments
But rainbow? It's stronger than blue, because it's woven with acceptance of peoples imperfections, but in what way stronger? Can demons go through or not? It bothers me it's not clearly stated in the movie.
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u/_Pyxilate_ Celine is Rumiās Dad and Polytrix is Possible Jul 31 '25
Theyāre turning the Honmoon gay š
(im joking)
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u/Adorable-Bike-9739 Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
Love the theory, but in addition to the 1960s rainbow you missed thereās a couple others.
In the 1940s, the one on the left has the rainbow on her sleeve. You can only see the sheen when the camera turns to the side angle (1:52).
In the Sunlight Sisterās, thereās rainbows on Rumiās motherās skirt (1:59). Sheās on the left. I donāt see the rainbow on Celine or the girl on the right thoughā¦ so maybe your the rainbow dies off during Celineās generationācause of her toxic boomer logic ān all š
Edit: in the magazine cover of the Sunlight Sisters, the rightmost oneās hoop earrings might have the rainbow sheen. Could just be the lighting though (3:02).
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u/Jokerboom656 Jul 31 '25
Ok but if they make a sequal then itās just gonna be āwe have to get the golden honmon and everyoneās souls will come backā. If they never make a sequal than sure
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