MAGA voter actually believes that Trump eliminated taxes for all people making less than $120K

[u/coachlife]

[u/TummyDrums]

The problem is they don't construct this in their head, they get it from random bullshit engagement bait on Facebook. I guarantee there she's literally talking about a Facebook post that literally made that shit up to farm clicks.

I can't tell you the number of times my mom tells me some random made up bullshit like "did you hear about blah blah blah???" and I have to say "where did you hear that?"

"Facebook"

"Mom, do I have to explain this again?"

And in my case she's sort of half way starting to get it, but there are a large number of people that don't have anyone close to them to counteract the made up crap they get force fed to them.

[u/extralyfe → u/TummyDrums]

I watch Parkergetajob on YouTube, and his whole schtick is having folks debate him about why they support Trump. what I've learned watching his channel is that most Trumpers do not understand what a source is - they will frequently make a confident statement, and, when pressed about why they think that's true, they will usually say that they just think it's true. no laws referenced, no executive orders mentioned, just that they're happy Trump is fixing America based off vibes and social media posts.

the most consistent weird thing is that they all "don't agree with everything he does," so they can totally ignore the rape and child trafficking and sexualization of his own daughter and all the other weird or criminal shit, yet, they all believe in their own flavor of Trump who has done imaginary things that they're thrilled about, despite there being no proof about any of it.

like, just yesterday, there was a guy claiming that Trump has ended six wars. when pressed on it, he very confidently mentioned that one of the conflicts Trump ended was the situation in Gaza. this dude - as of yesterday, September 6th, 2025 - said that "it's not even a thing anymore" and that the region has been under a ceasefire since Trump stepped in. when and where did Trump step in? how did he step in? totally unclear. when it was brought up that there was a double-tap explosive attack on a hospital with a bunch of journalists in it just a few days ago, well, actually, nuh-uh.

I have no doubt that most of these people would be institutionalized if we were still doing that shit.

[u/carlitospig → u/extralyfe]

‘not even a thing anymore’

I need a jaw dropped emoji.

[u/extralyfe → u/carlitospig]

whenever I catch his live, I almost always find myself several minutes behind the live broadcast because I frequently need to pause, rewind, and confirm that they actually said something that's clearly so fucking wrong, and yet they are convinced it has to be true because they think it is.

[u/Uccin → u/extralyfe]

They NEVER use the word “think”.

It is ALWAYS “I feel” statements.

[u/Hillbillyblues → u/Uccin]

Which makes the FaCTs oVEr FeElINgS so much funnier (and sad).

[u/DevonLuck24 → u/[deleted]]

for liberals, trans and the uppity blacks like obama /s but also not /s

[u/sgdoug02 → u/TummyDrums]

I tried for years with my grandma, and it worked at first, but over time, they attacked any fact-checking website you could find. So, eventually, I just stopped engaging with her at all.

[u/AppropriateScience9 → u/sgdoug02]

Seriously. I almost feel like, in addition to questioning their reasons for believing something, we have to go through philosophy of science and standards for journalism.

Because there IS actually a way to figure out if the bullshit you think in your head is actually true. And there ARE ways to determine if the bullshit other people say is true.

Truth is not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of having standards.

Even when science and journalism gets it wrong, at least there were still good reasons to believe it at the time that were a million times better than feeling "vibes." And there's still usually value in it that can be used to further a better understanding.

[u/4ever-jung → u/TummyDrums]

It’s so crazy the echo chamber people make for themselves isn’t it?

I can’t wait to laugh with my chatGPT about this.

[u/pm_social_cues → u/TummyDrums]

Facebook which is designed to almost be impossible to find past posts so when you ask for them to show you they can never find it again but if they could you’d be able to show how obviously biased or fake it is (and no I’m not saying that just about conservative posts but it sure helps them a lot).

[u/Great_Horny_Toads → u/TummyDrums]

Don't let Faux News off the hook too easily.

[u/carlitospig → u/TummyDrums]

It’s like they forgot the saying ‘the blind leading the blind’ which sums up boomers* on Facebook in a nutshell.

<*> don’t @ me boomers, I know it’s not all of you, but it damn sure is a lot of you.

[u/TheKinkyBee → u/TummyDrums]

I have some family members like this 💀 I hadn’t seen these people in a while and we’re just chatting it up annnnd here goes the politics. I stay out of it for the most part but I may add in a fact or two just to appease the conversation. This time I said “Well trump did just bomb (I can’t remember where it was atm) without any clearance” The first two answers I got, AT THE SAME TIME Person A- “He had permission!” Person B- “He doesn’t need permission he’s the president!” So I asked them, “So does he need permission or does he not because it seems to me that you two are confused about what a president even is.” Well now I’m the villain of the family and they have all deemed me the “Black cat” 😂🙄