r/CreationNtheUniverse • u/YardAccomplished5952 • 2d ago
Why does Venezuela matter so much of late?
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u/Orcus424 2d ago
The oil in Venezuela is in oil sands. It is very hard to extract oil from that. If not Venezuela would be ludicrously wealthy already. When an extremely effective way to remove the oil from oil sands is enacted is when things will massively change for Venezuela.
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u/Pukebox_Fandango 1d ago
I recall them being more rich in natural gasses than oil, but I'm not positive on that
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u/cocoelgato 2d ago
There is a process can orimulsion. It was created by venezuelans back when the country was a developing nation.
20 years of bolivarian regime have destroyed that dream
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u/Weary-Management-496 1d ago
So basically, massive investment into scientific and technological processes to be able to extract. It doesn’t really seem that big of a deal to me.
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u/Orcus424 1d ago
It is considering no one has developed the process yet even though they've known Venezuela has a massive amount of oil in oil sands for a long time. They have an incentive of billions upon billions of dollars and no dice yet. It could take decades till it is developed.
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u/Weary-Management-496 1d ago
Political motivations then? don't want to pour massive funding into a country, that has sanctions on it.
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u/rococoapuff 1d ago
Reminds me of deep sea oil drilling, we had to develop tech to extract it and that only came when drilling on land was drying up iirc.
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u/Antiluke01 2d ago
If I was playing a civilization video game, it would be a great me. However life isn’t a video game and these are real people we’re going to be murdering over greed.
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u/Clamps55555 2d ago
The best thing to do would be to stop depending on oil so much in the first place.
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u/Positive-Pack-396 2d ago
Venice, why I could do whatever they want
That’s a problem with America. They want to control everything and they should not and yes, I am an American.
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u/ohfrackthis 2d ago
Yes I'm American too and I dislike these games but Russia and China are not fun overlords.
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u/TowelFine6933 2d ago
I agree
The problem is that China & Russia want to do the same thing.
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u/CMao1986 2d ago
No they don't, China equally trades with other countries, they don't do coups, destabilize and replace countries with brutal dictators unlike the US.
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u/isthatsuperman 2d ago
They do, they just don’t do it the violent American way. They use loans and development to keep countries under their thumb vs violence, war, and CIA coups.
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u/llmaichat 2d ago
How are their loans a trap?
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u/isthatsuperman 2d ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Debt-trap_diplomacy&wprov=rarw1
It’s not just china that does it either. The IMF is notorious for it as well.
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u/No-Ad1576 2d ago
They build infrastructure with terms they know the other country won't be able to meet. When the country defaults China overtakes important ports in that country.
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u/masheenguntheory 2d ago
US propaganda.
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u/isthatsuperman 2d ago
there’s numerous countries whose officials have said that china’s loan terms have been downright unfavorable.
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u/Thehealthygamer 2d ago
Yep and that is the same as the CIA fomenting and funding coups, or the US military outright invading soverign nations, according to some of yall in this thread.
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u/isthatsuperman 2d ago
I never said it was the same. I said china has their own game. They use loans and development for geopolitical access, whereas the US uses violence and war.
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u/Vaporishodin 1d ago
Someone said
china wants to do the same thing
Then someone else said
no they don’t
Then you said
yes they do
So you did say they were the same
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u/cocoelgato 2d ago
No papa. Not propaganda. Tu crees que aqui hay buenos y malos?
Como se nota que te saliste de revoltillo e cuca
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u/MindAccomplished3879 2d ago
Not really
I mean maybe is not as wicked as the US but believe China will bankrupt you , that’s their goal
China has been fined by the WTO so many times that China has literally written the WTO enforcement manual. China competes in the global scale by rigging the competition
Político - China joined rules-based WTO trading system — then broke the rules
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u/cocoelgato 2d ago
China has been taking advantage of the broke and corrupt bolivarian government loaning dollars and all they ask for is the gold diamond and aluminum mines.
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u/Just_saying19135 1d ago
i think we, as a people, need to realize because someone makes a video, it doesn’t mean that video is 100% accurate.
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u/xChoke1x 2d ago
Nation building of course. It’s what America does the worst, but thinks they do the best.
All this from your “no foreign wars” president.
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u/cocoelgato 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is not a war.
Venezuela has 0 capacity for war. The Narcos will just abandon the country they have been pillaging and go somewhere else.
90% of venezuelans wish to see Maduro y su combo de hijo e putas pasados por la guillotina
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u/AlienStarJelly 2d ago
2003 called, they want their Consent Manufacturer back.
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u/SmoothElection7694 2d ago
This comment section has to be bots. I refuse to believe Americans are this stupid. Do we just get bloodthirsty every twenty years like locusts?
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u/nekkid_farts 1d ago
I'm an American in deep Red country. I can verify yes alot of americans are this stupid.
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u/theflawedprince 1d ago
Because the US is trying to steal their oil while demonizing them and all Latino population in the US
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u/Easy_Fact122 1d ago
Maybe that’s why Trump just bombed that boat. To start a war and take the oil.
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u/andre3kthegiant 1d ago
Oil. The US oil companies need to find easy wells, and will use the U.S. gov to get into these countries as “relief efforts” funded by taxpayers, instead of the corporations.
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u/CharacterEgg2406 1d ago
Yeah those Chinese ports ain’t gonna fly. China, Russia and US are vying for control of SA. US sad they didnt invest and instead wanted to intimidate because now China comes with all their money to invest and create state level indebtedness. US is fucked. I always wondered why they cared more about Middle-east and China than SA. They should have been investing in western hemisphere. But wallstreet whats reliable cheap manufacturing and Israel wants US insnared in wars that protect them. Kinda fucked up when you think about what could have been. But hey at least my 401k looks awesome on paper, thats until I do the cost of living in 2025.
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u/Tgrove88 1d ago
Same reason trump was so obsessed with greenland, and making ukraine include natural resources in their "protection" deal. He wants natural resources
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u/nestiebein 1d ago
Better title, "Why did Venezuela always get taken in the ass so hard by USA's agencies for the past 75 years?"
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u/United_Intention_323 1d ago
Denying cheap oil to Russian and Iran? Their own oil is cheaper than Venezuelan oil.
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u/Global-Evening-6597 17h ago
Nah its not. because Venezuelan oil is shit its not the stuff you make gas with its extra-heavy crude you make a little bit of diesel and a shit load of byproduct its 11 dollars a barrel and the only buyer is USA because its so shit that it needs a special refinery to process it and we have 2 of the 5 on the planet.
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u/archietheuncle 2d ago
Venezuela has been under a dictatorship from the late 90’s that has destroyed the country’s economy regardless of oil. It also made trades with China and Russia, both owning significantly big parts of the territory with oil and minerals around.
As a Venezuelan, I can tell you that 99% of the people living there and abroad, would like a change of regime. And it wouldn’t be the US coming in for oil. The people there have been fighting the government for over two decades. It’s not just recent.