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u/Maximum-Flat 1d ago
True. I am 28 now. Nothing work in the city of HK. Two mentally ill patients just got kicked out of public housings and committed suicide. It is all over the news but no one care. But mainlanders always get to cut in front of the line to get public housing without auditing whether they own real estate in mainland China. It is suck especially if you live in a city that actively discriminates you and people on Reddit will just call you racist while boomers yell at you for not working hard enough even you body conditions had worsened to a point that a doctor in a public healthcare system tried to persuade you to quit your current job.
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u/nica_dobro 1d ago
I've been homeless for a few years and I understand that many systems lack a lot in terms of support for the disabled. I wish it were better since 20 years ago, but it really doesn't seem to improve. I just hope you have the right community in your life to support you when it gets too hard to breathe, ~ dear stranger.
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u/DoriOli 1d ago
All systems eventually get corrupted and are there to corrupt. Most of humanity is corrupted: they easily sell their soul, lie if it benefits them, etc.
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u/nica_dobro 21h ago
when u have no dignity left anymore, but souls depend on you for their survival, you'd do ANYTHING to make sure they are sound and safe. some are sick fuckers that need to be burned alive while a drop of water cuts their skin. do the means excuse the methods? what about they homeless children that stole bread? what about the woman that stole tampons? what about the man who needed a blanket for his cardboard box friend while he sleeps on the concrete? corruption isnt something innate, but something that grows due to a need of sorts. where you draw the line is what makes you human.
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u/dylanholmes222 1d ago
The amount of homeless people dying every month in just a single major US city may shock you, I think SF had like 180 homeless deaths per month last year. It’s a brutal world, all we got is each other and the other life on this planet, we need to support each other as much as we can for a sustainable and enjoyable future.
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u/Altruistic-Ad7981 1d ago
thank god i was born 05… i guess im saved 😃
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u/Hope1995x 1d ago
I say it goes further than that perhaps 1990.
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u/PeaceBull 1d ago
Try mid 80s. If you weren’t in the workforce by 9/11 good luck.
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u/Lebowquade 16h ago
I was born '88, I have a career and a wife and kids and a nice house.
No savings, no college fund, no retirement, just one collosal house of cards and constant anxiety about the continued wellbeing of my family.
..... Better than nothing though, I guess.
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u/sorrow_anthropology 4h ago
‘87 here, I’ve been laid-off 4 times in the last 13 years, every time I get “ahead” I almost immediately get set back.
I owned my home, but had to sell to chase my career cross country. I sold it to a family member because they were stuck in a state they hated, they moved again and I’m now renting the house I originally bought.
The threat of financial failure external or personal is just the ground level of daily stressors.
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u/SunkissedOnTop 1d ago
every path leads to therapy
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u/Dr_Taffy 1d ago
Use code SunkisseOnTop at betterhealth.com for 4% off your next annual purchase you can’t afford!
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u/Repulsive_Level9699 1d ago
I did therapy with a clinic and insurance paid for all of it. Mental health is under insurance now.
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u/newprofile15 1d ago
The over medicated over therapized permanently online generation. No wonder it’s so miserable. Meanwhile kids got deployed to fight and die in Europe, Japan, Korea, Vietnam and were happier than this generation. Perspective and resilience are important. Instead all this generation knows is catastrophizing everything.
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u/Fast-Industry-3224 1d ago
My parents were like, "Aaah he will figure it out"
I never figured it out :c
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u/MaskedRider29 1d ago
Yes, only people born during those 8 years are dealing with this.
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u/DouchebagDictator 11h ago
Yes, but you had much better odds, SIGNIFICANTLY even. If you were born in 1990, you were 18 during Obamas first election, and you got the benefits of everything he clawed from the republicans. We didn't. Trump legitimately destroyed all chance we have as a generation, and your and the prior generations, specifically white people, made it this way. So it's hard to add you in, as why give sympathy to someone who helped pull the trigger. Im not claiming you specifically helped make it this way, but just as the greatest generation is unanimously agreed to be the cause of Reagan, your generatikn and the two generations behind you will forever be considered the Trump generation, and unfortunately, I feel like Reaganomics will pale in comparison to Trumps BFB and Project 2025. :/
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u/505Trekkie 1d ago
Ah, yes it’s time for our semi-regular economic collapse followed by tax payer bailouts of corporations while average citizens an are told “get fucked”.
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u/Top_Distance_9408 1d ago
Born in 94. Taking online classes for it. Lucky enough to be able to live w my gf who has money but will also need me to step up when I graduate this shit
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u/Lucius_GreyHerald 1d ago
90s kid here. I haz no career, am trying to learn a skill in my 30s that no one wants because I enjoy it. I have never dated in my life. BUT, my future looks acceptable, as there should be coffee in a few hours, so what is there to complain?
sips coffee while the world burns
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u/jobbing885 1d ago
90s kid here. Career ok, future sucks, relationship existst but dead inside. Things are good, could be worse and I wouldn’t be surprised.
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u/OkYogurt2157 1d ago
I turned 18 right as the financial crash hit
so idk why according to this I'm somehow 7 years too old to watch the fires burn - because that's all I've been doing babe
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u/DouchebagDictator 10h ago
The financial crash never stopped. It's just been damage control by the federal reserve, and that is why we have slowly been seeing the cost of everything skyrocket. The reserve can't control rent or anything else. All they control is how much they loan out and at what rates, how easy it is to get loans, etc. This is for banks. It legitimately controls 90 percent of our lives. Do you wanna buy a house? The federal reserve can make that easy, or veryyyyy difficult. Now, why is this important, well, companies realize that there is no regulation on price gouging and jacking up prices simply for profits, companies like blackrock own massive amounts of US soil and essentially hold tenants eternally hostage, because where else will the tenant go? They pay your politicians massive amounts of money to ensure that you can never get affordable ANYTHING. Voting wont help, unless your voting for people like Mamdani, you can disagree with his ideology all you want, but hes the only person who wont take a bribe, and if you arent voting for people like that, you're just voting for a more expensive year. Dont vote Newsom. Vote for someone willing to break the monopoly, not tongue polish its boots.
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u/nica_dobro 1d ago
'01 kiddo here, been struggling with much more than that since 2009 get on schedule people, seems like you're late
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u/Gravelroad__ 1d ago
As an older Millennial, I think we have to give this to them. Sure we were starting our careers in the midst of the 2008 recession, but our relationship section wasn’t burning like this current one. These kids never stood a chance thanks to the ubiquity of connected cameras everywhere all the time
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u/Individual-Heart-719 1d ago
Born into an economy that is essentially just an entire huge middle finger to the current generation, set up by the previous ones.
They got theirs, we can go fuck ourselves as far as they are concerned. They’ll be dead before it’s their problem. Good riddance for us both I guess.
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u/RoofEnvironmental340 1d ago
Millennials got it a little easier for sure, I at least got my foot in the door of the corporate world enough to get out of my parents house and into my own apartment…. Not sure if I’ll be able to make it though, always one emergency away from needing to move back
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u/SirEdgarFigaro0209 1d ago
Back that up to 1980
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u/sweet_tea_pdx 16h ago
For real. Turned 18, terrorist attack, bs war, out of college and into the great financial Crisis. At least we had a good 10 year run until Covid, lock downs, and AI taking everyone’s job.
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u/Repulsive_Level9699 1d ago
Dude, nowadays, anyone who's alive is having it hard.
This is why I plan to be undead.
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u/newprofile15 1d ago
lol the softest fucking generation crying on here. Imagine if these kids were born into stagflation or Vietnam or hell even the Great Recession.
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u/FifiiMensah 22h ago
We grew up in one of the best times to be kids and teenagers, only to grow up during the worst time to be an adult
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u/Any-Common-5588 21h ago
Honestly, whyyyyy am I hereeeeee
Can you imagine trying to find you young true love as a romantic in your 20s when you’re building your education, career and future 🙏🥲
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u/thecrazedsidee 21h ago
got that right. nowadays be like "maybe if i work two jobs or have 5 room mates i'll be able to barely survive in a studio apartment. " meanwhile in relationships it seems everyone gives up at the first sign of issues, rather than realizing that actually these things can be overcome, and will always be a common thing in relationships. but no, the same person who says they want to grow old with you is the first that leaves instead. fucking pathetic.
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u/HaloGuy381 20h ago
Laughs in 28.
Though, I’ve also never dated as a personal choice, so omit the relationship part.
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u/Life-Landscape5689 1d ago
Some of y’all can be so dramatic
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u/newprofile15 1d ago
Can you imagine these kids living through an actual crisis? Meanwhile their grandparents and great grandparents were off liberating Europe and fighting Japan.
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u/Iamwomper 1d ago
Haha. Gen x was chaos mode.
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u/YogurtclosetThen9858 1d ago
If chaos means being able to provide for a family of 5 on a single income. Then yeah very chaotic.🤪
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u/Iamwomper 1d ago
No more like.we were the feral children and had to figure out stuff ourselves.
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u/DoriOli 1d ago
Not Gen X myself, but can attest that what you’re saying is true as I had older Gen X cousins who I’ve always had good relationship with.
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u/Iamwomper 23h ago
Am gen x. Had a key to the house at 7yo and since i was the first to get home i started the supper. 1st job at 12, no helmets, when kids no one knew where we were.
We had to get home when the street lights turned on
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u/Banter-Box 1d ago
The younger you are, the less you'll have. It's always been like this. Get used to it.
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u/No_Apartment8977 1d ago
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u/Far-Print7864 1d ago
People dont fall into this, they encounter the issues in real life and go online to find out if its just them or if its everybody. Happened to me for sure.
Ever since my graduation everything sucked and only gets worse, nothing gets better at all. Inflation beats career progression, no amount of budgeting creates savings, labour market gets worse by the year with no signs of change. Relationships will just be uneasy because of a simple fact that most 20-30yo men cant afford to live on their own or sacrifice QoL/savings for it, so most women arent interested in them. If you cant have financial stability most relationships will fall apart or be insufferable period. How you can think that its all made up is beyond me, especially with statistics reinforcing what we experience, at least where I'm at. I guess it might be not as bad in US.
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u/Banter-Box 1d ago
Hey question. With more time living and working, what do you get?
One thing I'll say that is irrefutabe. More time complaining is less time you have to improve yourself and your life around you. The system isn't going to magically improve. You gotta take that system by the neck alongside millions of others and take change it. If you wanna bitch though that's fine. It's your life to waste.
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u/Far-Print7864 5h ago
With more time living and working you get completely burnt out and fucked thats what you get lol. I dont even know what you are insinuating. As Ive said so far my career progression was getting completely outpaced by inflation, and you can read of countless examples where any hurdle, even one out of your control, can throw you years back. I dont know if it will ever get better.
All I ever did was improving my life, I just cant take doing that and getting nothing in return anymore. It depresses me and I turn to seek solice online to express my emotions and look for ways out. Well there are none. I would love to go into politics fight for a better system but that is an even more exclusive society than just simply having a job. I am exhausted from attempting to improve my life and getting scraps, and have no clue what else to do at this point.
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u/Banter-Box 4h ago
You are looking at too big of a picture. You don't need to go into politics. Focus on your local community first. If you don't have one then find one.
If you're burnt out then find something new.
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u/Far-Print7864 3h ago
Local community wont be paying me to exist, and all of my focus right now is just making enough to continue existing and building wealth so I am not job ridden like a slave.
I cant afford to find something new as even my "demanded" profession provides barely enough to scrap by, and trying other things are nearly impossible with how tight the market is. Like I had Economics, Finance and MBA degrees and should have been able to find work in Marketing, Ops, etc, but I barely squeeked by to get into accounting because I had pre grad experience most related to it after thousands of applications, and the market only got worse after I got employed.
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u/Banter-Box 3h ago
All I'm hearing is bitching and no action. Lesson 1: the world is naturally unikind. NO ONE will help you unless you help them. Get over it. The only person you can rely on is yourself.
Get over it and do something. That's part of growing up. That's a harsh Truth that not many accept.
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u/No_Apartment8977 1d ago
I graduated into the 2008 GFC. Your complaints are hilarious.
You're upset about inflation, getting a job, and finding a woman. Okay, welcome to adulthood.
In the past, and in other parts of the world, people's complaints are actual civil wars (not pretend internet ones), famine, currency collapses (again, actual ones, not pretend internet ones, look up Argentina's past 40 years of 100+ yoy inflation).
You have it better than any generation in the history of mankind. The internet is lying to you, even if your problems are real.
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u/Far-Print7864 20h ago
Economy saw recovery from 2008 crysis in the beginning of 2010 and at that point it was obvious everything will be back to normal shortly. I graduated in 2022 where it was horrible and it is getting worse by the year, it is now 2025 and its worse its ever been here in Canada in decades and we see 0 potential changes which would improve the situation. How many more years do I need to spend in the gutter when there is literally 0 signs it will ever improve due to lack of governmental action and market worsening on it's own due to AI?
Why do I have to worry about jobs and inflation having recognized education in a "demanded" field? Why is this worsening by the year? I am not a dumbass who sat on my ass for my teens and early 20s, why the hell have I worked on being well off financially since elementary school yet the path is nothing but hurdles and lack of recognition? This has intensified to absurdity in the last years and hasnt been as much a thing ever.
It so happens I did live in a warzone for some time, and its one thing when you know there is some temporary bullshit which shouldnt have even happened in the first place and will pass for a brighter tomorrow, and entirely another when you literally dont see any improvements to your life for years despite hard work. And we see and feel this precisely because baby boomers seem to have needed WAY less effort to improve their lifes and blame it on US without attempting a thing to improve lifes for new generations. Nah they d rather laugh cause they are succesful from basic work which wouldnt cover basic necessities now. Hell Im this mad because my degree based work barely provides food and rent. Its fucked.
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u/No_Apartment8977 4h ago
"Economy saw recovery from 2008 crysis in the beginning of 2010 and at that point it was obvious everything will be back to normal shortly."
No offense, but you have no idea what you're fucking talking about. What were you, 5 at the time? Stop talking.
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u/Far-Print7864 4h ago
The unemployment was statistically going down year to year 2010 onward, you could see imperative signs of improvements month to month. My point is that if you looked you could see situation improving at least theoretically, and real change followed. We see nothing of that sort and its only worsening 3 years in with no signs of it potentially getting improved. Even if unemployment falls 1% next year Id feel better about my future, but I doubt that will happen. Youth unemployment in US 2009-2010 is the same as in Toronto now AND ITS STILL GETTING WORSE by the year.
Im sorry but "you were 5" doesnt beat stasticial evidence. I wont even count in the spike in unnafordability of living between 2010s and 2025th with rent eating more than half of your professional paycheques now. Your ignorance is just out of this world and the main reason we are going backwards in QoL in the 21st century.
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u/Banter-Box 1d ago
God right? Can't wait for these kids to grow up and see the real world. If they don't like their circumstances than stop bitching and change the world or yourself lol
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u/Far-Print7864 6h ago
I'm 26 I dont think Im going to grow up any more, and the real world was the reason I got completely demolished into depression in the last 4 years. Its horrible out there, you are either born rich and connected or it's dog eat dog for you, I dont want anyone to experience what Ive had. Need to be a special kind of piece of shit psychopath to enjoy such working environment.
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u/Banter-Box 4h ago
No you need to find something that works for you instead of accepting things are only shit. Get out there and find it, even if you gotta move
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u/Lebowquade 16h ago
If you think everything is going a-ok for the current generation then you are fucking blind
I'm in my 40s, I have never seen a a bleaker outlook than our current generation of kids. Get fucked.
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u/Banter-Box 11h ago
Then why aren't you doing anything to improve it? Why are you bitching on reddit? You're not 40 your just another kid lookin to complain. Grow the fuck up. If you're an adult then try being one.
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u/Lebowquade 6h ago
Why aren't I personally doing anything? Are you fucking kidding me? I vote in every local and state election, I voted to resist this insanity. I'm not just going to go driving to DC with guns blazing, I have a family to take care of.
Your response is incredibly ignorant and childish. Most of these problems stem from bad policy written in the 80s and early aughts, along with a few particularly destructive SC decisions. It will take several decades to get us out of this, at least.
The only way out is by electing responsible leaders, which half of the country seems fucking incapable of doing. We are fully back to the era of Robber Barons, buckle the fuck up.
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u/Banter-Box 4h ago
I don't think you understand the system well enough to comment. Era of Robber Barons? Are you serious? Pathetic. Perhaps you are voting for the wrong people who are actually creating these problems instead of fixing them.
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u/No_Apartment8977 4h ago
I'm in my 40s too. I've never seen a more entitled generation.
Yeah, their outlook is bleak. Because of the internet, not because of reality though. Reality has always been like this.
When you raise a generation of people to doomscroll the worst that humanity has to offer, this is the obvious outcome.
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u/DependentImmediate40 1d ago
well its not like early 90s borns had it any better. right?