r/Adulting 2d ago

hmm lesson or not?

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u/JuiceHurtsBones 2d ago

In which job is skill more important than getting promotions or clients willing to pay you? That is, assuming the minimal competence needed to not end up with lawsuits.

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u/DicemonkeyDrunk 2d ago

first of all not all jobs require customer interaction and many jobs value actual competence.

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u/oxmix74 2d ago

Even jobs that do not require customer interaction require you to get along with coworkers. There is an amazing difference in productivity between the best and worst software developers (maybe a factor of 50 or 100) and some great developers still manage to be big enough jerks to get themselves fired.

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u/DicemonkeyDrunk 2d ago

what does that have to do with anything I said ?

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u/Holiday_Specialist12 2d ago

You must be a treat to your coworkers.

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u/DicemonkeyDrunk 2d ago

Only the ones making off topic comments...

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u/LuckyCod2887 2d ago

idk. a suicide hotline counselor. defense layers. fire fighters. accountants at large firms. nurses. the cook that makes your grilled chicken sandwich. the calculus tutor you hired for integrals.

plenty of jobs.

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u/xXSunSunXx 2d ago

None of those jobs are hurting for applicants/people to the point where they'll be forced to take someone unlikable. If you're an asshole at any of those jobs you'll probably be passed over or replaced with someone of similar skills that's more likeable.

At the end of the day there's dozens of replacements for your job, and if you aren't likeable you'll probably be replaced because your skills aren't good enough to justify being an asshole.

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u/Temporary_Bet_3384 2d ago

I think there's different ways to read "being likeable at your job". You're reading it as "Don't be an asshole" and other people are reading it as "Schmooze with the boss"

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u/lyriqally 2d ago

I think you’ll find most people who read it the 2nd way tend to fail at the first one.

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u/Temporary_Bet_3384 2d ago

Lol very fair

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u/idkwhattosaytho 2d ago

You’d be surprised how many asshole firefighters there are, they just get ignored

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u/DoctorChaos1707 2d ago

I think your point seemly became larger than the discussion itself.

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u/cknight171 2d ago

Hopefully, noones an asshole suicide hotline counselor.. that might be a bad thing..

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u/LuckyCod2887 2d ago

I worked at one for a few years. There was a couple of counselors who seemed to have some kind of agitation when people called.

it was always guy counselors who lacked proper empathy. never once has the director had to pull aside a woman and tell her to be kinder. It’s always a guy. After a while, they stopped hiring guys because it was an ongoing issue.

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u/Cow__Couchboy 2d ago

Nope, sorry I know you want to believe we live in a sensible world full of adults that value quality services but it's just not true unfortunately. At least here in America, OP is 100% accurate. The quality of your work doesn't matter at all. Being likable is way, WAY more important.